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1 posted on 08/02/2004 6:36:08 AM PDT by missyme
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Christianity is the only hope for the world, developed or developing. Let's pray it continues to grow!


2 posted on 08/02/2004 6:41:26 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (They are where you least expect. Look around and you'll see them too.)
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...But it is not a crisis for those churches in the developing world. Most of them are not gripped by debates over homosexuality or abortion — that is a problem for European and American liberals — they believe the Bible.

"...Overwhelmingly, the kind of Christianity is one which is very Bible-centered, which takes the Bible very seriously, takes authority very seriously, both the Old and the New Testament, in a way which I don't think western Christianity has done probably since the Enlightenment."
Amen bump to that.
6 posted on 08/02/2004 6:49:16 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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The Bible's promises about Gospel Victory in history are certainly true. Praise God the Church is not predestined to defeat and the Gospel to failure, but that the dominion of King Jesus will ultimately stretch from pole to pole and from east to west!

In coming generations we can expect to see the Gospel of Jesus Christ continue to triumph over all foes.

Optimistic postmillennial bump.


11 posted on 08/02/2004 6:58:23 AM PDT by PresbyRev (The kingdom of God is in your midst.)
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Jenkins says in just 20 years, two-thirds of all Christians will live in Africa, Latin America or Asia.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of them dying of aids. Sorry to not sound optimistic.


12 posted on 08/02/2004 7:02:01 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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"Overwhelmingly, the kind of Christianity is one which is very Bible-centered, which takes the Bible very seriously, takes authority very seriously, both the Old and the New Testament, in a way which I don't think western Christianity has done probably since the Enlightenment."


That's the most remarkable and most postive aspect of this phenomenon.

While leftist ministers in the U.S. ignore scripture and salvation to preach against immigration laws, gun rights, the death sentence, etc., these people have gotten the real message and are following it - often in the face of Islamic persecution.


15 posted on 08/02/2004 7:12:41 AM PDT by ZULU
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Europe is in a Post-Christian era where socialism reigns. Young Europe has no spiritual core from which to draw strength in the coming battles with the hyper-religious muslim cult. They will either fold and become the western province of a greater Eurabia or turn in desperation to nazi-like fascism.


16 posted on 08/02/2004 7:20:17 AM PDT by wtc911 (6 Flags Dancing Guy is Urkel.....wanna bet?)
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"It's not just Anglicanism" ping


17 posted on 08/02/2004 7:23:28 AM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi ||| Resource for Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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Voltaire said many years ago "without belief in an avenging God, the lower classes would slit our throats and steal our money"!

Both Voltaire, and Rousseau hoped that eventually Catholicism and other religions would no longer be needed but they were in no hurry to try the experiment. It was safer for the lower orders to believe, so long as the elite was not forced to conform. The lower orders will behave nice, and the rich will be protected.

18 posted on 08/02/2004 7:23:46 AM PDT by philosofy123
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Great post!


23 posted on 08/02/2004 8:05:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Yes indeed, Christianity did originate there.

And time, as we know it, will end there.

And what we can do as Bible believers is...
evangelize like we are told to do... Matt. 28:19,
serve others... Gal. 5:13
and live as if this is our last day...Heb. 9:27 & James 4:14 !

And pray.........."Even so, come Lord Jesus"... Rev. 22:20!


27 posted on 08/02/2004 8:35:10 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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Ann Coulter, in a some what tongue in cheek article after 9/11 shocked liberals everywhere when she called for, probably, the only workable program to stop Islam. "Convert them to Christianity".


28 posted on 08/02/2004 8:44:01 AM PDT by Jack Black
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Hey, I've heard of the 10-40 missionary ( http://www.ad2000.org/1040broc.htm ) and have heard the new evangelism will be of brown faces. I suppose we Westerners have taken God's generous grace for granted for far too long. As Jesus said - even the stones will praise Him if the whole world were held silent....


31 posted on 08/02/2004 8:57:44 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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This is informative:

Today more Presbyterians worship in the African nation of Ghana than in Scotland. And more Anglicans worship in Nigeria than in Britain. We like to think of ourselves as the Christian West.

But there is growing evidence that the center of Christendom has moved.

Africans are running to accept Jesus Christ. It is a scene playing out all across the developing world. It may sound like an exaggeration, but it's not: Christianity is sweeping across the southern hemisphere and Asia like a tidal wave.

33 posted on 08/02/2004 9:02:34 AM PDT by happygrl
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I worship with Liberians in Philly. As I have stated elsewhere on FR, my pastor preaches expository semons, with explications of the Greek, prays and receives miraculous physical healings, and prays for our troops.

These people ate the grass off the trees when they were in Liberia. They are phenomenal in their faith.

35 posted on 08/02/2004 9:17:40 AM PDT by happygrl
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Bump for later "pessimistic" reply (I'm on lunch break).


51 posted on 08/02/2004 10:10:25 AM PDT by streetpreacher ("I actually did post this reply before I deleted it.")
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Though this article doesn't mention it directly, Catholicism is also growing by leaps and bounds in Africa, India, and China.


58 posted on 08/02/2004 10:34:00 AM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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"A China that's Christianized would not be a threat to the United States."

Just like France was no threat to England?

61 posted on 08/02/2004 10:38:59 AM PDT by malakhi (There is no problem so bad that it can't be made worse by government intervention.)
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"We will persevere."


69 posted on 08/02/2004 11:27:58 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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70 posted on 08/02/2004 11:28:59 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Placemarker BUMP


79 posted on 08/02/2004 11:46:53 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (1xy1xx)
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