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LIVE THREAD: DEMCON -- DAY 4
www.freerepublic.com | July 29, 2004

Posted on 07/29/2004 10:32:33 AM PDT by Howlin

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To: Mo1

HOPE, HELP, DOESN'T MATTER!!!!

BUSH LIED!!!!

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4,801 posted on 07/29/2004 8:36:33 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: wisconsinbushvolunteer

THE ZOGBYs are long time democrat folks.
The pollster advises the DNC....and the Zogby that manages stuff actually works on contracts with the Dems.
So the Zogby poll is usually way skewed for favor.

THE PANEL AT MSNBC SAID THAT THEY SEE KERRY ONLY GETTING A 5+POINT BUMB IN THE POLLS. One said maybe up to 7.
Coming into today...most had agreed that Kerry needed 12 -15 and it needed to last well past two weeks.


4,802 posted on 07/29/2004 8:36:38 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Happygal
BBC - Bad Bull Crap.

It's like PBS or NPR here. Pure BS, and Natural Pure Rubbish.

4,803 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:01 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If you want a little peace, sometimes you gotta fight" - Sammy Hagar)
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To: Torie
Right, he's not an "exceptionally good liar", just a run of the mill one.

But lots of targets of opportuinity to compare Kerrys "soaring rhetoric" tonight with his votes in the senate.

I have that evil grin on my mug that I get when I sense something is going to happen to make things right with the world.

The Swift Boat guys have written a new book, I think its already #2 at Amazon. If you get a chance read it and judge for yourself who is telling the truth.

4,804 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:05 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Howlin
Has the convention accepted Hillary as the one to walk in an take the Democrats to victory? Didn't we hear it repeatedly that Hillary was the one waiting in the wings and Kerry wasn't going to be nominated? Seems like we did but maybe not......
4,805 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:12 PM PDT by deport (Please Flush the Johns......)
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To: Big E

I wouldn't touch JFK's Vietnam experience. It would only look petty and provides an obvious opening for the Dem attack dogs (who'll get plenty of media coverage -- remember that the playing field is far from level).

My advice: use *humor*, straight talk, specifics, and optimism.


4,806 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:19 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Terrorists beware: most of the top US pistol shooters live in my area -- and my old man's one of 'em)
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To: Howlin

They will claim he is being bashed regardless.

Right now I'm furious.

I know this man's character. I know their opinion of faith and God.

It doesn't remove the sheer anger I feel at what he did tonight. How DARE he position himself as the Highest authority. How DARE he think he has a RIGHT to mock G.W. for his love of Christ?

He offended me tonight and I doubt I'm the only one.

The Senator, IF he believes in the God I do, had better wake up. He has NO authority whatsoever to state G.W. may not demonstrate his faith. None of these people do.

He CLAIMS to be a Christian. Well, Senator, we are ALL held accountable to the REAL authority that watches over this country. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes at this moment.


4,807 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: goldstategop
and sound me-too Republican

I did not watch it all but I did think from what I saw this guy would make a fair Republican as long as he is supervised...I think President Bush should welcome Kerry's new found toughness and promise to find a nice job for him in his next administration.....he could work under Cheney or something

4,808 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:29 PM PDT by woofie ( I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: mass55th
Had to leave and missed the last 1000+ posts. Oh well, just relieved that this donkey-fest is ending. Good riddance!


4,809 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:30 PM PDT by ride the whirlwind ("I will never relent in bringing justice to our enemies..." - President Bush)
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To: Toespi

We need to respond to his 'notice' the same way we would to Bin Laden's...'cause this guy is a terrorist, too.

He AND Edwards issued their threats making any criticism of their records 'negative campaigning'.


4,810 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:34 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Torie

Bush already faced down one hectoring angry man in the 2000 debates...

I thought the speech was a flop. Quite frankly, I have a weak stomach for these things. I didn't expect to watch very much because of it... but I wound up keeping it on the entire time as he was doing so horribly, and I was having a good time watching it.

Of course, some argue that the country is fedup with Bush and Kerry need only offer himself up as a credible alternative. Did he do that tonight? I don't think so.



4,811 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:37 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: Torie
PS: The stem cell issue worries me a bit. We baby boomers want to live forever, and most of us don't buy the idea that their use is off limits, particularly if it seems to interfere with our sentient longevity. One might not like it, but that's the way it is

Thanks you for your input

I understand what you are saying about the Stem Cell

But the research is in ADULT cells and that is what needs to be pointed out

4,812 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:47 PM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: OXENinFLA
and the 527's will BE RUNNING ADS!!

I'm sure they'll all be very positive, right?

4,813 posted on 07/29/2004 8:37:47 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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If the balloons won't drop ..

You must flip-flop. ;-)


4,814 posted on 07/29/2004 8:38:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (OUI OUI!!! ... Vote for Jean Kerrrrrriiii'........ I'm Jacques Chirac and I approved this tagline.)
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To: goldstategop

Let me help you with some of this. Other than celebrating the military, which he won't use, unless in extremis, and spending more in the military, and leaving the national guard back home to cut lawns, Kerry did not sound like a Republican - not even a moderate Republican. I have an ear for moderate Republicanism. I know that melody quite well, both in major and minor key.


4,815 posted on 07/29/2004 8:38:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: MoJo2001

you are quick on the audio Mojo! thanks


4,816 posted on 07/29/2004 8:38:27 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: TomGuy

My thoughts exactly. He didn't mention his 20 year Senate career as if that period of public service was something to be ashamed of. If America is indeed a liberal, progressive country, why hide the fact you're a liberal. The only way the gap can be explained is John F*ckin' thinks the American people will not accept an honest to God liberal in the White House and he's right. He hopes he can fool Americans into thinking he's not really who he really is. That's how liberals see us: as stupid dolts in need of THEIR guidance.


4,817 posted on 07/29/2004 8:38:31 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Big E

The problem, though, with that, is that the Bush campaign has been attacking Kerry for the last several months. In fact, that has been the vast majority of their campaigning, has been attacking Kerry. They're already under fire for running such a negative campaign and swing voters are sure to feel alienated by such "politics of division," as the talking heads have repeated over and over. Most swing voters don't have an unfavorable opinion of either Bush or Kerry so if Bush can make a good case for why swing voters should vote for him, instead of against Kerry, I think he can do pretty well. Save the attacks for after the convention.


4,818 posted on 07/29/2004 8:38:35 PM PDT by K1avg
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

If you take the four main speeches - Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Kerry - they were completely uncoordinated and in many places contradictory. The only common thread was that John Kerry served in Vietnam.


4,819 posted on 07/29/2004 8:38:53 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: goldstategop

He would have done better admitting he was a liberal, and justifying that. But he can't be sincere, because he has no "core values" (other than self-promotion). Everything is tangled up inside him, like a big string ball of inconsistent positions. That's why he dared to say he would balance the bidget while promising the biggest expansion of middle class entitlements since FDR.


4,820 posted on 07/29/2004 8:38:54 PM PDT by maro
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