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1 posted on 07/27/2004 10:15:04 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: kcvl

hmmmmm...


2 posted on 07/27/2004 10:15:46 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

How to smother all the BAD news about the dimocrats OR republicans?

Plaster crap like this over all the tv channels, radio talk & news, and front page newspapers.

All for a simple murder case.


3 posted on 07/27/2004 10:18:42 AM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: Bonaparte
Hacking! It appears that is what he did.

This guy is toast.

4 posted on 07/27/2004 10:18:59 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Bonaparte

Seems to me the media realizes Scott Peterson is going to be acquitted, and they need "fresh meat".


5 posted on 07/27/2004 10:23:14 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Petronski; Sunshine55; Unknown Freeper; asgardshill; cripplecreek; the Deejay; dandelion; ...
Hacking Retains Lawyer
7 posted on 07/27/2004 10:25:59 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
I wonder if there is any connection being implied by the mention of a purchase of a mattress and the landfill?

Has anyone heard of eccentric millionaire stuffing a mattress full of cash?

I wonder if they have located the mattress the new was was to replace?

I would prefer to hear she is okay just upset.
13 posted on 07/27/2004 10:45:59 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Bonaparte
The FBI has offered its help through agents and profilers but police have so far has not accepted

Territorial? Why would they refuse FBI help?

14 posted on 07/27/2004 10:46:30 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Bonaparte

After hearing about this. I can only assume that she went home Friday, confronted him and he tolded her he had everything under control and that the school made a mistake. On Sunday evening they went to her going away party and everything seemed fine and she was happy and still talking about the move to NC (so he must have convinced her the school made an error). After they got home Sunday night I think she went to sleep and he killed her while she slept. No one heard any noises or fighting in the apartment complex otherwise we would have heard about this from someone trying to get their 15 minutes of fame in front of the cameras. I think he felt he had to kill her before she got up on Monday to call the school to tell them "they" made a mistake, as they only would have verified again that he was not enrolled or didn't even apply for the school.

I think now that he was wanting to get her out there in NC to kill her, but everything was being discovered before the move. I read that he has been out in NC and was staying out there and I just wonder if he hooked up with someone else while he was out there.

Something tells me he hacked her up (no pun intended) and scattered her remains all over Salt Lake City.

JMHO...


15 posted on 07/27/2004 10:47:25 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Bonaparte
His defense lawyer will try to claim that if they don't investigate where Scott Peterson was last week, then their case is all prejudicial, and should be thrown out.
17 posted on 07/27/2004 10:53:38 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: RogerFGay

An anti-fatherhood article ping!


18 posted on 07/27/2004 10:54:40 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Grig; Texas Mom; CedarDave; hispanarepublicana; gcruse; Alia; BurbankKarl; ...

see also post 7 link


26 posted on 07/27/2004 11:14:35 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
Hacking Retains Lawyer discussion
27 posted on 07/27/2004 11:17:03 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

The man is a sociopath, and I believe he is guilty. Those weren't just lies he was telling, but damn lies. This would explain why Lori was upset friday afternoon, but was okay at the party. He lied to her again, obviously. The one thing a sociopath or narcissist cannot handle is being unmasked. They become very dangerous.

This is my take on what happened. Lori goes home and tells her husband about the conversation she had. He tells her it is just a computer glitch, or whatever, and he'll straighten it out Monday. Now he knows that the game is over, and he has to take care of her before he is exposed. Sociopaths prey on innocent, trusting people. Lori and both families seem to fall into that category. He is such a good liar that he even pulled off the sham of graduating from the University of Utah.

What else has he lied about? Someone from the Church needs to contact the people who accompanied him on his mission. Did something happen while he was doing missionary work? I think if people wake up and start doing some digging, they might find more things. He didn't just have a nervous breakdown because this has been going on for a long time.


47 posted on 07/27/2004 11:53:46 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: Bonaparte
This is why this woman's disappearance is such an important national story:


53 posted on 07/27/2004 12:06:38 PM PDT by Theo (homeschooling: small class sizes, effective discipline, healthy socialization, family values ...)
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To: Bonaparte

Oh... I heard on Fox she was adopted and this will delay the DNA results. Did you hear this also?


57 posted on 07/27/2004 12:18:05 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Bonaparte

Heaven knows that every woman I have ever been involved with has learned of my lies!

They are all still alive, though...


82 posted on 07/27/2004 2:00:43 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Bonaparte

Hi Bonaparte,

thanks for the ping. I appreciate you starting this pinglist.


JockoManning


101 posted on 07/27/2004 3:53:18 PM PDT by JockoManning
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Thanks for the ping, Bonaparte.

So he calls her work 10am on 7-19; talks to person she's training (what about? Does he know this person?), and then just offhandedly asks 'by the way, how is Lori?'.

Lori's boss gets on phone, concerned that Lori has never been late and is usually there at 7am. After being told by Lori's boss to hang up and call police, Mark goes to get the mattress-taking time, according to reports we've read, to go to 2 different stores.

Then, he finally calls police at 10:49.

Now many folks have said they have purchased new mattresses before moving, but were they under this kind of circumstance?

102 posted on 07/27/2004 3:55:06 PM PDT by uvular (Something stinks and it's not the litterbox)
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To: Bonaparte

What about that Berger guy... I think that is a bigger story. I wonder what the Clintons stole?


121 posted on 07/27/2004 5:48:11 PM PDT by Porterville (Your sensitivity offends me you disgusting liberal.)
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To: Petronski; Sunshine55; Unknown Freeper; asgardshill; cripplecreek; the Deejay; dandelion; ...
It's been stated by the police that there are "timeline problems" with Mark Hacking's account. Detective Baird said he couldn't think of much that Hacking has been truthful with them about.

Looking over the news items, I've started to put together a timeline and the following is the first such "timeline" problem I encountered. Any insights and commentary you can offer are appreciated.

It's been established that, after failing to obtain a mattress right away at the first store, Hacking arrived at the second one at ~9:45 AM on Monday, July 19. He settled on a mattress to buy and gave them his credit card, then went outside to make some cel calls while his card was cleared and the mattress was prepared for transport. This was at ~10:00 AM.

One of the places he called was Lori's place of work, the Wells Fargo office. At that time he spoke to two people in her office. The first was Brandon Hodge, an employee Lori had been training. During that conversation, he asked him, "By the way, how is Lori doing?" Hodge replied that she had not come to work that day. Then Lori's boss, a guy named Church, got on the line. During that conversation, Hacking said, "Oh, my God, her [work] clothes are still here," at which point Church told him to get off the phone and call the police immediately.

Hold that thought.

While Hacking was outside the store waiting for the transaction to go through, he also called some friends, telling them he didn't know where she was and had jogged her route in Memory Grove going both ways, a total of 6 miles, in an effort to find her.

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Question #1: If Hacking had been so concerned about Lori's whereabouts that he went on an exploratory jog that morning, then why didn't he call her office on his cel right after he failed to find her? Why did he wait under 10 AM to do so? He wouldn't have bothered looking for her if she had returned home at her usual time. And after completing the search jog, it would have been well past the 7 AM time she always got to her office (co-workers and boss said she was "never late"). If he was so concerned about her whereabouts, why would he go shopping for a mattress instead making a simple cel call first? Are we to believe the man would be worried enough to drive downtown to a park and run for miles in search of his wife but not be worried enough to spend 30 seconds calling her office to see if she was there?

Question #2: Why did he not call the police right after his phone conversation with Church? Why did he wait for 30 or 40 minutes to do that, electing instead to keep fooling with the mattress people, then drive home with the mattress, then meet his friends at Memory Grove to continue looking for Lori? When he got there, his friends told him that they had already reported her missing to the police. Only then did he call them himself. That call was logged at 10:49 AM.

Question #3: Why would he have said to Church, "Oh, my God, her [work] clothes are still here," if he was not at home, but sitting outside a mattress store -- a store he was about to calmly walk back into and spend another ~20 minutes fooling with a mattress purchase? Lisa Downs, co-owner of Bradley's Sleep Etc, said he was still there at 10:35 AM. Church later stated he was put off to discover from news accounts that Hacking had apparently misrepresented his whereabouts during their conversation.

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Your thoughts, please?

(And there are other timeline problems here, involving such things as how long it would have taken Hacking to do all the things he said he did and still get to the first mattress store at the time he did. I still need to estimate the times and distances involved there and any assistance would be most appreciated.)

143 posted on 07/28/2004 12:12:42 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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