911 Commission delivers report LIVE THREAD

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I couldn't find one, so I started one.

[.cnI redruM]

9-11 Report Table of Contents

Appendix F - NSA COunterterrorism Activities from 1992-2000
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[OESY]

11. Now that we know that airport security is an imperfect line of defense and thankfully not the last line since we now have air marshals, hardened cockpit doors and a more attentive class of passengers, does it not make sense to arm pilots on every flight to increase the odds that security measures are never again breached? In other words, to take a concrete example: Is it more important to save 3,000 lives than to protect the life of a hijacker?

12. What are the recommendations by the Panel for better immigration controls, especially as it involves biometric identification, tracking and reporting?

13. Is the Al Gore brokered agreement with airlines not to single out more than two members of the same ethnic group now considered to be obsolete and should be abandoned?

14. What weight did the Panel accord pre-9/11 reports from Russian intelligence as recently disclosed by President Putin that Saddam was actively working to attack Americans?

15. What evidence threshold can be recommended in evaluating whether any particular group is responsible for an attack on a US facility or ship before taking effective action against that group or in accepting offers to extradite the group's leader?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Everyone has 20/20 Hindsight.

I don't know. Last time I was checked, the doctor said mine was about 20/80. I hope I don't have to get glasses on the back of my head.

[Chad Fairbanks]

LOL - Living in the liberal Puget Sound area, we probably need those!

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

There's a thread about that somewhere from two or three days ago...IIRC, my post on it was similar to yours.

[blu]

Pardon me is this has been asked/answered elsewhere, but how do I, J.Q. Public, get a copy of this report that my tax dollars paid for?

[Chad Fairbanks]

I remember seeing a link to an online copy of the report that you can download, at about 7.2 MB - it's on this thread somewhere...

Also, apparently the report will be published by various book publishers and will be for sale. Also, you could probably request a copy from the government publishing office (can't recall it's name off the top of my head)

[dead]

Excellent questions, but not in line with the agenda of the press - finding ways to get John Kerry elected.

[Peach]

Do you think they are willing to give the president more than a few hours to decide what to do? The ways these people are talking, he should decide immediately.

[kcvl]

I guess we will have to buy the book which I refuse to do.

[cake_crumb]

Is anyone surprised that John Edwards is a member of the Select Committee on intelligence? The committee that gave us the Rockefeller memo (Bush guilty) and failed to do it's job overseeing intelligence?

Edwards' groomer, DLC Chairman Even Bayh, is also a member of the committee.

[babaloo]

Bill Nelson is a FOX favorite. He makes me ill-something about the way he talks as much as what he says.

[1L]

Are you kidding? The whole Clinton administration gets a pass. This report seems to report as fact what Richard Clark says and reports with skepticism what Condi Rice said about what Clark said (other examples include Berger, Clinton, etc. when speaking to new administration officials).

This report is a load.

[txrangerette]

Rush Limbaugh agrees with you. He
says this report & Kean's remarks
are VERY FAVORABLE to Bush.

[ex-snook]

"As if these are the Ten Commandments. "

Once I heard Kean say 'war on terrorism', I thought nothing worthwhile is coming. For 'terrorism' is just a word for a technique. It is like a war on 'blitzkrieg'. Our enemy isn't 'terrorism', it is who is using terrorism, why they are using it, and how to be succesful against them.

Not unlike Rummsfeld who said he wasn't sure if what we were doing was increasing or decreasing the problem. It's about time we found out. The Commission does not seem to have moved the pile.

[killjoy]

Online copy of the report: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/index.html

[Chad Fairbanks]

Thanks!

[BossLady]

What do you think of the fact this group of losers exonerates the Saudis??? What an outrage!!!!

[whatexit]

In late 1998, reports came in of a possible al Qaeda plan to hijack a plane. One, a December 4 Presidential Daily Briefing for President Clinton (reprinted in chapter 4), brought the focus back to more traditional hostage taking; it reported Bin Ladin’s involvement in planning a hijack operation to free prisoners such as the “Blind Sheikh,” Omar Abdel Rahman. Had the contents of this PDB been brought to the attention of a wider group, including key members of Congress, it might have brought much more attention to the need for permanent changes in domestic airport and airline security procedures.13 Threat reports also mentioned the possibility of using an aircraft filled with explosives.The most prominent of these mentioned a possible plot to fly an explosives-laden aircraft into a U.S. city. This report, circulated in September 1998, originated from a source who had walked into an American consulate in East Asia. In August of the same year, the intelligence community had received information that a group of Libyans hoped to crash a plane into the World Trade Center. In neither case could the information be corroborated. In addition, an Algerian group hijacked an airliner in 1994, most likely intending to blow it up over Paris, but possibly to crash it into the Eiffel Tower.14 In 1994, a private airplane had crashed onto the south lawn of the White House. In early 1995,Abdul Hakim Murad—RamziYousef ’s accomplice in the Manila airlines bombing plot—told Philippine authorities that he and Yousef had discussed flying a plane into CIA headquarters.15

Now, I'm no chemist, but isn't jet fuel explosive?

[88keys]

Holy Cow, I just heard that these Commission Ego Freaks are going on a Bus Tour to travel around and tell us how great they are

Having read many comments about this already, I can't hold back until I've read the whole thread...LOL!

There was actually an article in the paper last Saturday about this...it strains credibility to think these people won't just hand over their report and get the hell off stage...how professional is that?

But it's not just a self-serving "book tour"...it also strains credibility that they would put this public-funded research report on sale, and then run around promoting it, but their real and declared intent is to actually lobby for "their" recommendations to be implemented.

I don't know exactly what they're recommending, but the main thing they're trying to "sell" is the "super terrorism czar" in the cabinet concept. That, I think, would be a huge mistake. Look for the Jersey girls to get on board with this, too, but lets hope no one is fooled into agreeing to this...