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Archives Staff Was Suspicious of Berger
Washington Post ^ | July 22, 2004 | John F. Harris and Susan Schmidt

Posted on 07/21/2004 9:25:10 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis

Last Oct. 2, former Clinton national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger stayed huddled over papers at the National Archives until 8 p.m.

What he did not know as he labored through that long Thursday was that the same Archives employees who were solicitously retrieving documents for him were also watching their important visitor with a suspicious eye.

After Berger's previous visit, in September, Archives officials believed documents were missing. This time, they specially coded the papers to more easily tell whether some went missing, said government officials and legal sources familiar with the case.

The notion of one of Washington's most respected foreign policy figures being subjected to treatment that had at least a faint odor of a sting operation is a strange one. But the peculiarities -- and conflicting versions of events and possible motives -- were just then beginning in a case that this week bucked Berger out of an esteemed position as a leader of the Democratic government-in-waiting that had assembled around presidential nominee John F. Kerry.

As his attorneys tell it, Berger had no idea in October that documents were missing from the Archives, or that archivists suspected him in the disappearance. It was not until two days later, on Saturday, Oct. 4, that he was contacted by Archives employees who said that they were concerned about missing files, from his September and October visits. This call -- in Berger's version of the chronology, which is disputed in essential respects by a government official with knowledge of the investigation -- was made with a tone of concern, but not accusation.

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To: Peach

Yep.

I'm glad to see there are still some real journalists left at the WA POST. The NYT and LAT are laughable.


121 posted on 07/21/2004 10:19:11 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: ScaniaBoy

Last summer sometime. I'll look for the date.


122 posted on 07/21/2004 10:19:53 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: Remember_Salamis
this sounds bad. so, maybe dick clarke told the clintonistas that certain of the millenium review documents would be damaging to the former president, and sandy boy was the lamb sent in to review them to find out what they said for sure, and maybe retrieve the things. anyway, with the bastion of leftist journalism, the washington post, involved to this degree, perhaps there's blood in the water.

if nothing else, it certainly knocks kerry off the top of the news . . . HEY, now that I think about it, that's probably good for him. everytime he opens his mouth, he drops three points in the polls.

123 posted on 07/21/2004 10:20:06 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Dolphy
And would there be copies of all of these versions as the Dem apologists are now claiming?

Dunno. If I were running a sting, I would make copies before I let a suspect try again.

124 posted on 07/21/2004 10:20:16 PM PDT by Samwise (a little song / a little dance / a little document down your pants.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (known as the 9-11 Commission) was created by Public Law 107-306, signed by the President on November 27, 2002. P.L. 107-306 originally required the Commission to report to the President and Congress 18 months after enactment, or no later than May 27, 2004. Recently Congress passed and the President signed legislation which extends the reporting deadline by two months, to July 26, and the termination date by 30 days, to August 26. This additional time will allow the Commission to fulfill its mandate.


125 posted on 07/21/2004 10:21:42 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: Samwise

The Klintoons are the most reprehensable people on the face of the earth (not withstanding Osama and gang). Their must be evil domenion over the Klintoons for so many beople to have their eyes blinded and not see the true damage these folks have done and continue to do to America.


126 posted on 07/21/2004 10:21:56 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (Kerry Lied)
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To: Howlin

...and Berger was interviewed sometime this spring, wasn't he?

It just seems that he spent a long, long time preparing himself.


127 posted on 07/21/2004 10:22:05 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Howlin
An article from the Jewish World Review, January 2002 describes a two hour meeting at Bill Clinton's office in Harlem in which Sandy Berger participated, the purpose of which meeting was to shore up Bill's image. Here is a quote from the article . This meeting was also reported by the NYT.

There they were -- not all, but many of the familiar faces and voices (some participated via telephone) of the Clinton years: Maggie Williams, then Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, and now Bill's; confidante Bruce Lindsay; former national security advisor Sandy Berger; former energy secretary Bill Richardson; former deputy White House counsel Cheryl Mills; former Chief of Staff John D. Podesta and more.

128 posted on 07/21/2004 10:22:29 PM PDT by dano1
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To: Samwise; Dolphy
If I were running a sting, I would make copies before I let a suspect try again.

Maybe that's why Sandy looks so worried.

129 posted on 07/21/2004 10:23:07 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Daschle To Demand Probe of Berger Missing Documents



Soon-to-be-former Senator Tom Daschle (D-SD) today demanded a Senate investigation into the disappearance of highly classified documents from the National Archives. Daschle, speaking from his Senate office, said "I am troubled, very troubled, really really troubled by this event." He continued "the notion that Sandy Berger, an honorable former government employee, sightseeing at the Archives with his grandchildren, could have a cascade of paper files accidently fall on him and into his sock and jock shows just how much the Bush tax cuts have endangered our infrastructure." Given the number of documents reported to have penetrated Berger's clothing, Daschle expressed surprise that he did not die from a thousand paper cuts.

In a related development, New York Senator Hillary Clinton today asked for an FBI investigation after numerous marked up pages from the National Archives records mysteriously showed up in a box on a coffee table in her Chappaqua residence. "I thought we had fixed that problem when we ditched the White House maid years ago!" said Clinton.


130 posted on 07/21/2004 10:23:12 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: ScaniaBoy

You maybe right on with that scenario, and after the convention, the Justice Department surfaces with some legal proceedings, that may involve Kerry?


131 posted on 07/21/2004 10:23:31 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Dox N Sox)
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To: MJY1288

LOL


132 posted on 07/21/2004 10:23:39 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Samwise; Peach
Dunno. If I were running a sting, I would make copies before I let a suspect try again

True. I don't think it makes a bit of difference (copies) to Berger's guilt but it would be instructive for all of us here. If he really couldn't erase the record (as the Dems claim) then those particular documents are not what he was really after, it was rather, a deliberate fake.

133 posted on 07/21/2004 10:25:17 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Peach

After experience in so many of these scandals the analysis gets deep...and you are correct.

Something sinister was and is afoot--far beyond what it appears on the surface.


134 posted on 07/21/2004 10:25:19 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: dano1

If you want my opinion, that's the REAL government-in-waiting.

Sandy Berger was an advisor to John Edwards until Kerry wrapped up the nomination in February or whenever it was.

I still think the Clintons picked Edwards as their stalking horse and "gave" him people.


135 posted on 07/21/2004 10:25:40 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

Didn't Kerry's brother do some sort of Watergate-like break-in for Kerry during one of his early campaigns?


136 posted on 07/21/2004 10:26:27 PM PDT by Samwise (a little song / a little dance / a little document down your pants.)
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To: Howlin

In talking to a friend knowledgeable in such matters,he sugested the stuff was taken to be diseminated to the Dems so they could strategerize their cover for the ineptness of the past.....the different notes on the copies would be invaluable to those who made them.


137 posted on 07/21/2004 10:26:38 PM PDT by woofie ( I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: Howlin

Long time lurker, first post: I know you all don't watch much Nightline, but I watched it tonite and Richard Clarke was on and what he said may be interesting for this discussion. His biggest point was that Bush failed to "get personally involved" in the terrorism issue after being warned a strike was coming, unlike Bill Clinton who got really involved and serious after he was warned about the millinuem threat! Can you believe it? Clarke was adamant that Clinton responded forcefully and intensely to the Y2k threat, and then by extension, that Bush dropped the ball.

I think this is the centerpiece of the Clinton Legacy project that these people are engaged in, so if those drafts show ANYTHING to the contrary, then these guys really are ruined, because it will be black and white they perpetrated a charade and it was they who were cavalier and political and shameless in refusing to address the terrorism threat appropriately. No doubt that Richard Clarke, by appearing on Nightline with his curious take on things, has demonstrated he is also at the center of this. I just couldn't believe that his main point dealt directly with the issue reflected in the missing Berger docs and that this incredible link wasn't even noticed by Nightline - it just made me so mad I had to register and tell y'all.


138 posted on 07/21/2004 10:26:46 PM PDT by burrian
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To: ScaniaBoy

They all testified in April.

Now here's an interesting tidbit: all the talk of Cheney going to be interviewed with Bush, remember that?

Guess who went with Clinton? Sandy Berger and Bruce Lindsay, but you didn't hear about that.


139 posted on 07/21/2004 10:26:47 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: Howlin
Okay, if they are missing, how could the 9-11 Commission have completed their report not knowing HOW the Clinton administration handled the information they got?

Depends on when the 9/11 pannel .. or their staff reviewed the documents I guess

If they viewed them at all

140 posted on 07/21/2004 10:27:32 PM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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