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Mo. High Court May Decide Whether Boy Can Be Circumcised
Kansas City Channel ^ | July 15, 2004

Posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by presidio9

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- For most little boys, circumcision is a decision for the parents to make. But the Missouri Supreme Court may make that decision for one local boy because his parents don't agree.

Two-and-a-half-year-old Ethan Azar's mother does not want to have him circumcised.

"There's no medical society in the world that recommends it, including the American Academy of Pediatrics," said Camille Azar.

But Ethan's father was recently granted sole custody. He wants his son circumcised. While the boy's father and his attorney would not appear on camera, they did cite personal, social and health reasons for wanting the circumcision, KMBC's Kelly Eckerman reported.

Circumcision removes the layer of skin covering the penis. It is something more and more parents are opting not to do, Eckerman said. The medical community calls it a personal decision.

"Everyone has their bias. But we try to base recommendations on sound medical evidence and it just isn't there to say yes or no," Dr. Ken Wible said.

Lower courts refused to intervene, so the case is now going to the Missouri Supreme Court to see if Ethan's father should be able to go ahead with the circumcision.

"The fact the courts have ruled he can make medical decisions doesn't mean he can make a decision to have part of the healthy living flesh of the child cut off," said Dennis Owens, Camille Azar's attorney.

Doctors did tell KMBC that Ethan's age is a factor.

"At that age, a child is going to need anesthesia," Wible said.

Camille Azar said that the decision should be up to her son when he's older.

"I want Ethan to make the decision about his own body," Camille Azar said.

Eckerman said that religion plays a role in some families' decisions about circumcision, but that has not been an issue here. The battle over Ethan's circumcision comes in the middle of a custody battle. A decision from the state's high court is expected within two weeks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
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To: Modernman

>> canyon yodeling <<

ROTFLMAO!! I've heard it called many different things, but that's a new one. Thanks for the laugh!!


101 posted on 07/16/2004 10:14:46 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.)
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To: malakhi

"But hey, if you wish to permit your children to make this or any other decision, I won't object."

I only wish I had that choice.


102 posted on 07/16/2004 10:16:18 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CindyDawg
She may not have custody but it doesnt mean she doesn't love him and she is still his mother and should be able to voice concerns.

There is the issue of circumcision, and there is the issue of a father with sole custody having a legal right to make medical decisions for the child. I'm not debating the circumcision matter.

103 posted on 07/16/2004 10:16:21 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: horatio; CindyDawg
If both parents don't agree on the need for cosmetic surgery, it shouldn't be done. Period.

If a mother had sole custody, and wanted to get a two year old daughter's ears pierced, do you think this matter would be before a state supreme court?

104 posted on 07/16/2004 10:17:44 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Why did they wait til he was 2.5 years old?

It sounds to me like the case has been dragging out since the boy was an infant.

105 posted on 07/16/2004 10:22:32 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Jape
Incidentally, there's a correlation between circumcision and 'deviant behaviors', including homosexuality.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

Wanna back that up with something other than your say-so?

106 posted on 07/16/2004 10:25:57 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Jape; Modernman

smeg·ma n. - A sebaceous secretion, especially the cheesy secretion that collects under the prepuce

Maybe the women on the forum could comment on the impact of the sebaceous cheesy secretion issue in the less than fastidious oral requesters.


107 posted on 07/16/2004 10:28:41 AM PDT by US admirer
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To: US admirer

Cleanliness is next to Godliness, and this applies equally to males and females.


108 posted on 07/16/2004 10:30:57 AM PDT by NCjim
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To: US admirer

A guy should be clean whether he's cut or not.


109 posted on 07/16/2004 10:32:00 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: malakhi

Sorry but it's a power play (even if unconciously). When parents fight the kids always lose. Should this go to the courts? No, but both need to decide what's best for the child. Having custody doesn't mean the other is a bad parent. A mother that had a 2 y/o's ears pierced (which I also think is wrong) should discuss it with the father first.


110 posted on 07/16/2004 10:34:09 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: malakhi

Could be. When my son was a day old he was circumcised. I stayed with him as the doctor did it. He didn't flinch or cry, (the pro foreskinners claim that is due to the severe shock). He sure seemed normal to be in shock to me. Anyway 2.5 years is gonna be a differnt story. Just putting shoes on that little fella probably requires a shot or two either for him or dad.

I think Dad should wait.


111 posted on 07/16/2004 10:35:05 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Kerry has a Carter Plan. Bush has a Reagan Plan. You choose which is your plan.)
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To: cyborg

foreskin cheese sister moose biting... I think we can all see where this is going.


112 posted on 07/16/2004 10:35:11 AM PDT by US admirer
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To: US admirer

smokey back room


113 posted on 07/16/2004 10:36:05 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg

Exactomundo!


114 posted on 07/16/2004 10:36:37 AM PDT by US admirer
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Circumnsion gone awry...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040716/od_afp/romania_health_offbeat_040716105200&e=2

Crazed surgeon amputates patient's penis, chops it up

Fri Jul 16, 6:52 AM ET AFP to My Yahoo!

BUCHAREST (AFP) - A Romanian surgeon who underwent a fit of madness while operating on a man's testicles proceeded to amputate his penis and cut it into three pieces...

115 posted on 07/16/2004 10:43:27 AM PDT by US admirer
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To: NCjim
Cleanliness is next to Godliness, and this applies equally to males and females.

Amen, brother.

116 posted on 07/16/2004 10:47:26 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: malakhi
Wanna back that up with something other than your say-so?

Well, you know, all of those deviant Orthodox Jews are a prime example of this phenomenon.

117 posted on 07/16/2004 10:49:03 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: malakhi

Fuuny. I would have figured the guys would have found you by now. Esp. Dave :')


118 posted on 07/16/2004 10:51:53 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: TontoKowalski

"And, I don't care what anybody says about baby's not feeling it, that's got to hurt."

I watched my first sons circumcision, it was horrible, brutal, my son screamed in agony. My second son is intact and I'm a strong anti circumcision advocate. None of my three grandsons are circumcised.


119 posted on 07/16/2004 10:56:40 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (Conservative-says it all.)
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To: CindyDawg
Fuuny. I would have figured the guys would have found you by now. Esp. Dave :')

Present.

SD

120 posted on 07/16/2004 10:56:49 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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