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Lynne Cheney differs with VP on Gay Marriage
The Baltimore Sun ^ | July 12, 2004 | Associated Press (no author listed)

Posted on 07/12/2004 12:45:33 PM PDT by RavenMoon

WASHINGTON - Lynne Cheney, the vice president's wife, said yesterday that states should have the final say over the legal status of personal relationships. The Cheneys have a lesbian daughter.

That stand puts her at odds with the vice president on the need for the constitutional amendment now debated in the Senate that effectively would ban gay marriage.

"I think that the constitutional amendment discussion will give us an opportunity to look for ways to discuss ways in which we can keep the authority of the states intact," Cheney told CNN's Late Edition.

The Senate began debate Friday on an amendment that defines marriage as a union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fma; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lynnecheney; prisoners; samesexmarriage; statesrights
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It's refreshing to see Lynn Cheney having the courage to state her mind on this subject, proving that there isn't a monolithic mindset on this issue for conservatives. Though, her quoted statement is [perhaps intentionally] vague. I might wonder what she meant and how much the AP took out of context (having been taken out of context by the AP myself).
1 posted on 07/12/2004 12:45:35 PM PDT by RavenMoon
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Hey, I am all for states rights. I think it should be up to the States, but the fact is, we ALL KNOW what would happen then. On the other hand, I am uncomfortable with amending the Constitution for such a thing. G*D D*MN courts force ones hand however..


2 posted on 07/12/2004 12:47:10 PM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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Sounds like Lynne Cheney differs from the VP, not on gay marriage, but on the gay marriage constitutional amendment. There's a difference.
3 posted on 07/12/2004 12:47:16 PM PDT by plain talk
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you can't give states this right, while at the same time having the SCOTUS toss the federal defense of marriage act (which they will do when given the chance).

so what do you do, absent a constitutional amendment?


4 posted on 07/12/2004 12:49:22 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: plain talk

Exactly, but don't you hear the spin: Mrs. Cheney sides with Democrats on gay marriage issue.


5 posted on 07/12/2004 12:49:25 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: RavenMoon

Interesting. The press has had a blackout on this woman for the last three years, and now she's newsworthy.


6 posted on 07/12/2004 12:49:40 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: plain talk

Considering that the media has all the subtlety of GWAR on an acid trip, this will no doubt be played up as a 'major rift in high level GOP circles.'


7 posted on 07/12/2004 12:50:16 PM PDT by ICX (The Dem VP race is like a wildebeest giving birth - it's ugly, loud, and ultimately doesn't matter.)
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To: plain talk
Sounds like Lynne Cheney differs from the VP, not on gay marriage, but on the gay marriage constitutional amendment.

Yeah, the difference seems is on method to ban gay marriage not on the principle of gay marriage itself.

8 posted on 07/12/2004 12:51:04 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: RavenMoon

emotion over intellect,maternal love over righteouness


9 posted on 07/12/2004 12:51:28 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: oceanview

If you're inclined for a research project..suggest you look up the quotes of Dem Senators who were in the senate when the ERA last came up for a vote..


10 posted on 07/12/2004 12:54:15 PM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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At the risk of sounding like a fence-sitter, I think they're both right. States should have the final say in something like this (an issue not delegated to the federal government in the Constitution by the states), but with the militancy of the homosexual lobby (and the left in general), this will eventually end up in the Supreme Court when some state refuses to acknowledge a Massachusetts or California same-sex "marriage" certificate.
11 posted on 07/12/2004 12:55:26 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (Rest in peace, sultan88)
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I'm in favor of amending the composition of the US Supreme Court, not the US Constitution. I would fire a few justices who are out of control.

If Republicans don't have the sack to clean up the SCOTUS, they will never have the spine to pass any amendment. That's my humble prediction.

12 posted on 07/12/2004 12:56:33 PM PDT by george wythe
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sarasota wrote: Exactly, but don't you hear the spin: Mrs. Cheney sides with Democrats on gay marriage issue.

Is this really a Democrat vs. Republican issue? I know more than a few registered Republican gay people, and, here in Massachusetts, an amendment defining marriage as a man and a woman was approved by a legislature made up mostly of Democrats. Isn't Rudy Giuliani, a speaker at the upcoming RNC Convention, rather supportive of gays himself? If I remember correctly, he even lived with a couple of them during his separation from his wife. I'm not sure this is a cut and dry issue for the Republican party.
13 posted on 07/12/2004 12:56:49 PM PDT by RavenMoon
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Yes, it is refreshing. The wives are certainly entitled to have their own opinions about issues.


14 posted on 07/12/2004 12:58:13 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Monthly Donors NEVER need tons click "co-ordinating")
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There is no point in amending something that is utterly ignored in the first place.

If anyone had the guts to impeach the activist judges and vacate their unconstitutional travesties, that would be enough.


15 posted on 07/12/2004 12:58:49 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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First her torrid lesbian novel and now this....sheesh.


16 posted on 07/12/2004 12:59:22 PM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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I hear ya; look what I started a day ago:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1168934/posts


17 posted on 07/12/2004 12:59:41 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: Paradox

If it is left up to the states, then it is up to the states to honor other states' marriages or not. The problem is the Constitution,. for good reasons, requires all states to honor each other's contracts. So it is not up to the individual states.


18 posted on 07/12/2004 1:05:02 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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OK, for all of you out there who feel that discussion and a possible constitutional amendment is some how in opposition to states rights, please let me know how?

In the end, the states DO decide with a constitutional amendment. It MUST be ratified by the several states in order for it to become a part of the constitution.I simply hate the fact that education of how our government works is so poor that even the VP's wife doesn't understand the process.

Constitutional Amendments

19 posted on 07/12/2004 1:05:20 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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so what do you do, absent a constitutional amendment?

Nothing. Let them get married. This country has more important things to worry about.

20 posted on 07/12/2004 1:07:30 PM PDT by conserv13
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