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Germans, French Object to Saddam Execution (GRRRRRR!)
Yahooo via AP ^ | 7/1/04

Posted on 07/01/2004 12:11:25 PM PDT by areafiftyone

PARIS - Baghdad's decision to re-establish the death penalty ahead of the war crimes trial of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) evoked a mixed reaction in Europe, recalling the split across the continent over the war that toppled the Iraqi leader.

Germany and France, two of the most vocal anti-war opponents, strongly stated their opposition — without exception — to the death penalty and called on Iraqi authorities to ensure Saddam a fair trial.

In Berlin, the government's top human rights official, Claudia Roth, criticized Baghdad's move to reinstate capital punishment, which was suspended during the U.S. occupation.

"To start out this way does not send a good signal," Roth told The Associated Press. "I think it would have been a signal of democratic strength had they not reinstated the death penalty in Iraq (news - web sites)."

France called on Iraqi justice officials to hold a trial that conforms to principles of international law, and the government reiterated its opposition to the execution of convicts.

The 25-member European Union (news - web sites) intends to let Iraq know of its opposition to the death penalty, said Emma Udwin, external relations spokeswoman for the European Commission (news - web sites).

But while capital punishment is outlawed across the continent, attitudes hardened farther east among the newer EU members, where support for the war was strong.

Latvian Foreign Ministry spokesman Rets Plesums said that whatever happens to Saddam after his trial is a matter of concern for Iraq — not the Baltic state.

"We are hoping that the new Iraqi courts will conduct the trial as fairly as possible, but I don't think our government will offer an opinion about what happens to Saddam Hussein," he said. "It's not our business."

Latvia, a recent newcomer also to NATO (news - web sites), ardently backed the U.S.-led invasion and contributed more than 100 soldiers to the coalition after fighting ended last year.

Poland, another supporter of the war, offered a similar view. Poland just decided to extend its troop deployment of 2,400 soldiers in Iraq until Dec. 31.

"Our reaction is obvious. This is a sovereign decision of an independent court and of the Iraqis themselves," said Boguslaw Majewski, spokesman for Poland's Foreign Ministry.

Roman Kuzniar, a political scientist at the Warsaw University, said the list of crimes committed by Saddam Hussein "would justify the death penalty."

Poland had capital punishment before ousting the Communist government in 1989, then eliminated it in order to join the EU.

Turkey, a Muslim nation with aspirations to join the EU one day, formally ended executions as part of its bid for membership. But many Turks still feel capital punishment is justified in some cases.

"The conscience of the people will not be satisfied if he doesn't face the death penalty," said Burhan Kuzu, a top lawmaker from Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party. "If they give the death penalty to him, this decision will not disturb me."


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To: areafiftyone

Does their opinion even matter?

Hell, they'd have objecting to executing Hitler if we'd caught him.


41 posted on 07/01/2004 12:33:46 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: areafiftyone

The French objecting to killing. Aren't they the same people who gave us the morning after pill?


42 posted on 07/01/2004 12:38:56 PM PDT by calmseas
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To: Michael81Dus

Before you remember my words, you might want to read them first. The 'she' was referring to Claudia Roth, not Germany.


43 posted on 07/01/2004 12:39:04 PM PDT by ICX (Al Zarqawi: "Our masturbation jihad will wipe out all American kittens unless our demands are met!")
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To: areafiftyone

Well, one thing's certain - the usual "we were scarred by war so we know what's moral" rap isn't going to fly in the face of a guy who's watched his countrymen run through industrial shredders.


44 posted on 07/01/2004 12:39:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: JmyBryan
I'd say France is still solidly behind the "death penalty".

The last time the Frogs lopped off a head on their infamous guillotine was 1979, not so long ago.

They are sure proud of their newfound high and mightyness.(major sarcasm on)

45 posted on 07/01/2004 12:39:56 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: areafiftyone

Old Europe should try a really big cup of "Shut the F**k Up!"

What is wrong with these people? Geez.


46 posted on 07/01/2004 12:40:13 PM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: ICX

Oh, alright. Fu** that bit++. She´s a Green, and one of the worst, for that matter. I take back my announcement to call the US of America a "she"-country!!!


47 posted on 07/01/2004 12:41:40 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: areafiftyone
Germany and France, two of the most vocal anti-war opponents, strongly stated their opposition

That's kind of like your neighbor objecting to what color of car you buy. If you didn't pay for it, then shut up.

48 posted on 07/01/2004 12:41:57 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier)
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To: calmseas

Aren't they the same people who gave us the guillotine?


49 posted on 07/01/2004 12:42:25 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: gimme1ibertee

Good one!


50 posted on 07/01/2004 12:43:15 PM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: areafiftyone

Fine, then they won't have to execute them. The Iraqis, on the other hand...


51 posted on 07/01/2004 12:44:20 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Corporate Law
Conservative women are not only beautiful but smart. Liberal women are, well...........

Dowdy. hehe

52 posted on 07/01/2004 12:44:48 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: areafiftyone

Europe, the sissy-boy continent.


53 posted on 07/01/2004 12:45:08 PM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: areafiftyone

The French never met a fight that felt wasn't worth running from.


54 posted on 07/01/2004 12:45:21 PM PDT by calmseas
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To: areafiftyone

So I suppose the Nuremburg Trials should have resulted in no executions either??


55 posted on 07/01/2004 12:46:00 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: MikeinIraq

Saddam still has a lot of money they claim is theirs. And like the whores they are, they dance for him for its sake.


56 posted on 07/01/2004 12:46:13 PM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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To: areafiftyone

Plus, one would think that France would welcome the execution of S-H. One less witness to their dirty deals...


57 posted on 07/01/2004 12:46:52 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: areafiftyone
Well, I don't think the French and Germans should be sitting in judgment. Europe is replete with little towns and their museums of torture. Their do as we say not as we did, rings false to me.
58 posted on 07/01/2004 12:47:42 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: areafiftyone
Aren't they the same people who gave us the guillotine?

Why, yes, they certainly are. But the French only support capital punishment when it's committed by an angry mob. And the Germans only support it when it's done in gas chambers.

Bleep 'em both.

59 posted on 07/01/2004 12:48:10 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: areafiftyone
.......Both NAZI socialist camps have a mutual history:.....Germans, French Object to Saddam Execution.......HITLER LIVES!

"V"

60 posted on 07/01/2004 12:48:27 PM PDT by maestro
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