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Spelling-bee protesters 'thru with through', the Seattle Times ^ | June 3, 2004 | Seattle Times

Posted on 06/29/2004 8:21:41 PM PDT by Spellfix

I am new to your forum, a spelling bee protester just getting around to answering some comments posted June 3 here: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1146693/post My actual remarks are under Comment. Please email me if I'm putting the comment where the thread should be or vice versa. ramole@aol.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society
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To: Spellfix
Are you series?
41 posted on 06/30/2004 5:25:43 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: Old North State

It's so unfair.


42 posted on 06/30/2004 5:25:56 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Drove my Jaguar to the Quagmire. But the Quagmire was dry.)
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To: Spellfix

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43 posted on 06/30/2004 5:26:35 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Spellfix

A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling

by Mark Twain

For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s," and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.

Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c," "y" and "x"--bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez--tu riplais "ch," "sh," and "th" rispektivli.

Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

======================================================== So, I think I'll pass on mucking with the language. We have high illeteracy because we have an educational system that embraced "WHOLE LANGUAGE" and dumbed down an entire generation or two of our population... this combined with a system that believes a childs "self esteem" is more important than education further dumbs them down. Sorry the illiteracy is not a fault of the language... its a fault of the system that has been charged with teaching it.

44 posted on 06/30/2004 5:28:43 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: Spellfix
I'll give your request all the consideration it is due.

And, might I ask a favor of you? When you get spelling fixed, can you take on the issue of gravity? Its damned annoying and unfair that I keep spilling coffee and other beverages on the front of my shirt in the morning. I mail my elected officials about this almost every week but nothing is done.

45 posted on 06/30/2004 5:31:28 AM PDT by asgardshill
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46 posted on 06/30/2004 5:34:30 AM PDT by Howlin
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47 posted on 06/30/2004 5:37:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: sittnick
...Scando-Germanic sparseness...

Nice.

48 posted on 06/30/2004 5:45:28 AM PDT by Petronski (My beeber is stuning!)
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To: Spellfix

Rubbish, it's a contest and as such is designed to be challenging.

If you want to work to increase literacy then do so, but don't do it on the back of an already popular and successful event. That's just pathetic and is considered coat tail riding.

Have some damn pride and succeed on your own.


49 posted on 06/30/2004 5:51:50 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Spellfix

By the way, your soundspel crap is just that, crap.


50 posted on 06/30/2004 5:56:10 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Spellfix
Who is going to translate all the books in a library?

If the next generation can only read and write in this "new" method, all the current books printed in what is now standard English would be a foreign language. Are all the books going to be translated? Or, just a select few? Since they would have to be translated, perhaps they could be modified a little, you know, get rid of things people should not really know.

If I was paranoid, I would think you and your group had other motives.

51 posted on 06/30/2004 6:04:41 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (So many people with so little information, but a whole lot of opinions and no responsibility...)
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To: Spellfix
I'm Alan Mole

"Moleymoleymoleymoley....MOLE! MOOOOOLE!"


52 posted on 06/30/2004 6:07:24 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Forth now! And fear no Darkness!!")
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To: Cultural Jihad; EDINVA
Excellant version.

EDINVA says the Southern alternative is "Bless Your Heart!"

53 posted on 06/30/2004 6:19:20 AM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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To: Lazamataz
Let the freakin' kids be, would ya??? Just let them have their little contest!

Laz, you don't get it. These kids are showing Alan up! They are able to do what Alan can't and Alan's little bitty feelings are hurt.

Man, people would picket an effing rock if they thought it would give them some TV face time.

Well, that is true as well.

Their children almost all become fluent in one or more foreign languages, while the U.S. performance is pathetic in this area.

The only thing in the whole pile of processed bull food that I agree with. Know why? Because learning a second language when you are young actually helps dyslexic children learn to read, add in adults reading to their children and no TV (yes, I do mean no TV, zip, zero, nada and zilch) before age eight and you will have just greatly improved the chances of dyslexic children being able to read.

How do I know this? Because, I am dyslexic. I had no idea until I was in college and they were giving us sample tests as part of a course on learning disabilities.

Of course it takes them two weeks to learn to read and write while it takes us two years. (A third of the first six years of grade school is spent on readin' and writin'.)

Aw, what a cute little lie! No, it does not take them two weeks to learn to read and write. It takes them about six months. The same amount of time it takes someone to learn how to read and write English. That a "third of the first six years of grade school is spent on readin' and writin'" if true is a blistering indictment of teachers and the faulty methods of teaching that are in common usage in American schooling.

54 posted on 06/30/2004 6:22:19 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (You'll think twice about that when a 6' 250 lb Viking kitty with titanium claws comes calling.....)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
"...Buck Melanoma, Moley Russell's wart..."
55 posted on 06/30/2004 6:28:10 AM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: Spellfix
Illiteracy often leads to poverty, desperation and crime. The USA has 2.1 million prisoners behind bars, the highest incarceration rate in the whole world. Is this due to spelling and illiteracy? Well, 60% of our prisoners are illiterate -- judge for yourself.

Maybe they are illiterate because they are stupid, not uneducated. Or they are undisciplined. But the schools want to "mainstream" them which means they get a subpar education and no discipline. Create schools for the idiots and give them the best education AND discipline they can have.

If we can conclude that 60% of prisoners are illiterate and that leads to prison, what can we conclude from the statistic that 85% of prisoners are Black or Latino? Maybe that statistics are sometimes meaningless and make our heads hurt.

56 posted on 06/30/2004 6:33:20 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Howlin

Hie. Howe ar yew?


57 posted on 06/30/2004 6:34:15 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Member, Burger-Eating War Monkeys, Rapid Response Digital Brown Shirts, NLC™)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
and no TV (yes, I do mean no TV, zip, zero, nada and zilch)

So what you are saying is, a little TV is okay.

58 posted on 06/30/2004 6:34:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Spellfix

In the UK, there are so many different ways to pronounce a word depending on your region and class - some are wildly different phonetically. I'm sure the States is similar. I'm curious as to how you would work out which particular accent to base your phonetic spelling on?


59 posted on 06/30/2004 6:38:48 AM PDT by pau1f0rd
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To: NovemberCharlie

The late Victor Borge did that 50-odd years ago (w!).


60 posted on 06/30/2004 7:37:34 AM PDT by SAJ (Buy 2 NGG05 9.00 calls, Sell 5 NGG05 12.00 calls against, for $800 net credit OB. Mortal lock.)
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