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S Korean Hostage Dead [Warning- Graphic Photos Included]
Fox NEws Channel ^ | 22 June 2004 | FNC

Posted on 06/22/2004 9:47:27 AM PDT by Maigrey

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To: FITZ

They could. And in the end they could blow themselves up. A toofer.

The problem is that this country is far too focused on wathcing queer eye for the straight guy, while islamofacists creep in the country.

They will drive us out of Saudi, topple the Saudi family, control the middle eastern region, then beginning attacking us until we no longer will support or defend Israel.


741 posted on 06/22/2004 2:08:16 PM PDT by job ("God is not dead nor doth He sleep")
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To: BriarBey
If you take the trouble to read this thread, you'll see that my charge of "acting like nazis" is reserved for those who are calling for the flattening of cities, and killing of the inhabitants therein, in retaliation for terrorist acts.

This is precisely the method and motive for atrocities such as the nazis perpetrated in Lidice, Czechoslovakia, in response to the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich by Czech partisans.

One kind soul on this thread even went so far as to recommend that anybody who attempted to escape should be shot dead. (From the Lidice link: "No one was allowed to leave the village; a 12 year old boy and a peasant woman were shot as they tried to escape.")

The rest of your rant is wasted on me. I am well aware that we are at war with vermin. I am glad to hear reports when the vermin are killed, and agree that they should be killed without mercy.

Unlike some on this thread, however, I choose not to classify all Iraqis as worthy of such treatment. I cannot avoid pointing out that the "kill 'em all" crowd has, in effect, decided that Iraqis in general are the same sort of vermin as the terrorists -- which again parallels the rather similar opinion of the nazis toward, say, the Ukrainians.

743 posted on 06/22/2004 2:10:23 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: stevie_d_64

If I had any idea WTF you were talking about, I might attempt a response.


744 posted on 06/22/2004 2:11:29 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Nowhere Man

I love that Hymn!!

Northeast Intell. Network has posted that a poll taken on an Arabic website shows 91% agree with beheadings. Oh yeah they are our buddies. I'm going to give some of these sympathizers on here the job of mixing oil and water, that should keep them busy and out of our hair for a while.


745 posted on 06/22/2004 2:13:09 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: GWTexan

Godwin's law. You lose.

LOL! That's brilliant! I had not heard of that, but it certainly explains a lot about ole' r9etb doesn't it. He is a loser. See ya'all at the next beheading!

746 posted on 06/22/2004 2:14:34 PM PDT by Musket
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To: r9etb
I'd ask what exactly we have done other than exist as non-muslims which has inspired "people to become terrorists" but I suspect your answer will lead to a long debate about "evil" western Judeo-Christian capitalist culture.

Please understand that based on twenty plus years doing business in the Middle East, a degree based on a major in Middle Eastern history and minor in Arabic, and lots of past friendships with Muslims, I should be the one who blanches at the thought of annihilating them. I simply don't anymore. My opinion about many things was changed for good on a September morning in 2001. But the change was based more on recollections of what muslim "friends" had told me of their beliefs, what I myself read in the Quran, and my understanding of history since AD 622 than on anything involving nineteen Arabs and four jets. That event just focused my attention on facts which I had till then refused to face.

I understand more than most about their history, culture, and religion and I'm telling you right now this will at some point (maybe in the far future, maybe not) become a question of them or us. At least it will be for those of us who feel conversion to a false faith or existence under their heel are not options to be considered.

747 posted on 06/22/2004 2:14:41 PM PDT by katana
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To: nwctwx

These are cowardly acts of desperation, an attempt to have the countries intending to send troops think again. If there wasn't "progress" being made, these acts wouldn't take place, and if they did, the pussies wouldn't be wearing masks out of fear for their lives.


748 posted on 06/22/2004 2:16:12 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: r9etb

No need to attempt anything...I can see that you cannot count, therefore your response proves my point...

Later,
Steve


749 posted on 06/22/2004 2:19:14 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans)
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To: BriarBey

I belive its time to pull the media out of the ME and let the troops do thier jobs.


750 posted on 06/22/2004 2:20:41 PM PDT by awesome1
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To: r9etb

If you take the trouble to read this thread, you'll see that my charge of "acting like nazis" is reserved for those who are calling for the flattening of cities, and killing of the inhabitants therein, in retaliation for terrorist acts.

So do you think God was a Nazi? Because that is EXACTLY what He told Israel to do when they took a country. He even had their animals slaughtered to exterminate any future problems. Personally I like God's way of thinking, it works. If muslims were to take our country, I'd rather be dead and I hope they use the same principles. I'm not suggesting anything for them I am not willing to take myself, but then that is usually why its called WAR, and someone WILL win.


751 posted on 06/22/2004 2:20:41 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: katana
I'd ask what exactly we have done other than exist as non-muslims which has inspired "people to become terrorists" but I suspect your answer will lead to a long debate about "evil" western Judeo-Christian capitalist culture.

Your "suspicion" would be incorrect. I'm referring to the tactic in guerilla warfare where the guerillas gather recruits from areas where atrocities have been committed. (I stand by the claim that our flattening cities would be an atrocity.)

Now, if you're done making bad assumptions, perhaps we can have a reasonable discussion.

752 posted on 06/22/2004 2:23:49 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: katana

understand more than most about their history, culture, and religion and I'm telling you right now this will at some point (maybe in the far future, maybe not) become a question of them or us. At least it will be for those of us who feel conversion to a false faith or existence under their heel are not options to be considered.

Thank you. That is EXACTLY what it is going to come down to. Only we are not asking them to convert or die. They are telling us it will be that way.


753 posted on 06/22/2004 2:25:35 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: katana

Wow. Your post #474 is chilling - and exactly as I suspected. Thank you for sharing.


754 posted on 06/22/2004 2:30:15 PM PDT by Musket
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To: chris1
Gee people, get some resolve!!!!!!!!! Nation building is full of this garbage and always has been. There are always forces who want the nation to be rebuilt in their images and fight. Go back and read news articles from our nation building efforts after WWII the press thought we were loosing the effort back then also.

I begin to wonder if we have any MEN left in this nation. If this whining lot is all we have left then the US will never again win anything... no courage in the face of evil.

755 posted on 06/22/2004 2:30:43 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Alberta's Child
I am really only talking about our getting involved in a conflict and then pulling our punches as public approval appears to be waning. It's self-fulfilling prophesy, the more the press goes on and on news of the president's detractor's opinions. Then when the whole reaches critical mass the public begins to voice their concerns via the plethora of polls that are reported with the same vigor as hard news. Then the detractors site these polls as evidence that they are correct in their criticism. Today's poll is how a majority of Americans no longer feel the war is worth what it's costing and this will just fuel those who are on the air, and in the press, day and night giving aid and comfort to the enemy by assuring them that we are a divided nation and that if they make the cost high enough they can force us to pull out and leave the country to them. What happened after that in Vietnam is a matter of record and NO ONE disputes it was exactly what those who supported the war had said would happen. It's not bad enough that their never-ending harping on how wrong the war is encourages the enemy to fight harder, but then when MILLIONS die they say nothing and act like it never happened. I was in the news business throughout the Vietnam war and I'm telling you this is deja vue all over again! If the opposition can slow us down enough the public will soon tire of supporting it and support will wane with the same outcome as Vietnam. God (and I mean that in the most respectful and prayerful way) I hope I am wrong on all counts. We'll just have to wait see. When I was a the chance to say "I told you so" was reward enough. Now I realize how being able to say that embodies the worst of both worlds.
756 posted on 06/22/2004 2:31:25 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: chris1

I did not mean that reply just for you but all who are complaining about Bush.


757 posted on 06/22/2004 2:31:43 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: katana

OOPS! I meant post# 747.


758 posted on 06/22/2004 2:32:52 PM PDT by Musket
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To: BriarBey

Let's be exact here...once an adolescent male Arab, Pakastani, Palestinian, etc has been through the equivalant of a Madras, we have lost him to any type of reform. He then regards us and anyone else as an enemy worthy of death at his own hand. These are the enemies that I agree need to be dealt with harshly and indiscriminately.

Our only hope is to get to the women and children in these cultures, and the unindoctrinated pro-western adult males, and somehow shield and protect them from their terrorist and terrorist-sympathizing adult males until they can face down these animals themselves.

That is what Bush is trying to accomplish. Whether he and the rest of our Western allies can accomplish this over a generation remains to be seen.


759 posted on 06/22/2004 2:34:36 PM PDT by Basilides
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To: Kerberos
Just for the fun of it why don't you go back now and write an article that compares the similarities between Christianity and Islam.

There are none! They are polar opposites. Try studying it for yourself to see.

760 posted on 06/22/2004 2:35:08 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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