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To: r9etb
I'd ask what exactly we have done other than exist as non-muslims which has inspired "people to become terrorists" but I suspect your answer will lead to a long debate about "evil" western Judeo-Christian capitalist culture.

Please understand that based on twenty plus years doing business in the Middle East, a degree based on a major in Middle Eastern history and minor in Arabic, and lots of past friendships with Muslims, I should be the one who blanches at the thought of annihilating them. I simply don't anymore. My opinion about many things was changed for good on a September morning in 2001. But the change was based more on recollections of what muslim "friends" had told me of their beliefs, what I myself read in the Quran, and my understanding of history since AD 622 than on anything involving nineteen Arabs and four jets. That event just focused my attention on facts which I had till then refused to face.

I understand more than most about their history, culture, and religion and I'm telling you right now this will at some point (maybe in the far future, maybe not) become a question of them or us. At least it will be for those of us who feel conversion to a false faith or existence under their heel are not options to be considered.

747 posted on 06/22/2004 2:14:41 PM PDT by katana
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To: katana
I'd ask what exactly we have done other than exist as non-muslims which has inspired "people to become terrorists" but I suspect your answer will lead to a long debate about "evil" western Judeo-Christian capitalist culture.

Your "suspicion" would be incorrect. I'm referring to the tactic in guerilla warfare where the guerillas gather recruits from areas where atrocities have been committed. (I stand by the claim that our flattening cities would be an atrocity.)

Now, if you're done making bad assumptions, perhaps we can have a reasonable discussion.

752 posted on 06/22/2004 2:23:49 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: katana

understand more than most about their history, culture, and religion and I'm telling you right now this will at some point (maybe in the far future, maybe not) become a question of them or us. At least it will be for those of us who feel conversion to a false faith or existence under their heel are not options to be considered.

Thank you. That is EXACTLY what it is going to come down to. Only we are not asking them to convert or die. They are telling us it will be that way.


753 posted on 06/22/2004 2:25:35 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: katana

Wow. Your post #474 is chilling - and exactly as I suspected. Thank you for sharing.


754 posted on 06/22/2004 2:30:15 PM PDT by Musket
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To: katana

OOPS! I meant post# 747.


758 posted on 06/22/2004 2:32:52 PM PDT by Musket
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To: katana
#747 Well Put!!! I cannot tell you how many times I have said much of the same. Although not degreed in Arabic and such, I have done much reading and research on these subjects, had Saudi, Iranian, Lebanese, Syrian business associates, spoken in depth with muslims about their faith, spoken with military/government personnel who have spent a lot of time in the Middle East, attended lectures and so on.

I deeply respect your opinion and add it to the many others of the same vein. All, of course, heading in the same direction with the same outcome.....it will come down to Us or Them...

765 posted on 06/22/2004 2:46:14 PM PDT by BossLady (What do your choices cost you????)
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