Posted on 06/20/2004 10:43:53 PM PDT by MadIvan
Regards, Ivan
Ping!
I've never been so health since I stopped taking trains to work in the city as I now do working in my basement.
Efficiency has never been the issue with mass transit. The issue has always been elimination of personal vehicles and private property right.
Exactly!
One needn't have a Ph.D. in physics to appreciate the energy requirements of moving something as massive as a train in short haul (frequent stop-start) applications. This is something I have suspected of commuter rail - now finally demonstrated.
Nonsense. In and around crowded cities it's indispensible. I would never, for example, drive my car to Chicago if I can take a train. There's no "freedom" in driving in a situation like that.
There are so many holes in this report it's difficult to list them all.
- how much auto travel is London to Edinburgh vs. local?
- is fuel consumption the only measure of whether something is enviro friendly?
- are there lighter, lower-consumption trains available, and how would they stack up?
- supposedly the 2004 Passat gets 31 MPG highway. What's the average for those who drive passenger cars between London and Edinburgh?
etc. etc. etc.
But nobody takes the train for a journey of less than two miles. (Not talking about subways or buses or trams, etc, but full fledged trains.)
bttt
We've driven around London. Never again :) Do like the train, though.
Well, I should obviously drink my coffee before I start reading FR...
I just read this title as "Cats are more fuel-efficient than trains, claims study."
(Visions of hordes of harried commuters riding cats to work...)
Mewl train :)
Whoa! For your refutation, Willie.
If you believe in the global warming theory then yes. Burning hydrocarbons produces CO2. The more fuel you burn, the more CO2.
Prior to the global warming theory, the ideal was to burn fuel cleanly so that all of the exhaust was CO2 and H2O. Pollution was considered to be anything other than CO2 and H2O.
If I remember right fuel consumption goes up with the square of the speed - high speed is anything but efficient.
Ooh, Willie Green isn't going to like THIS one!
You can even download it in printable pdf format to show to any environmentalists you know. Just think of all the fun you can have undermining their doom mongering!
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
Nonsense. In and around crowded cities it's indispensible. I would never, for example, drive my car to Chicago if I can take a train. There's no "freedom" in driving in a situation like that.
I disagree. If the amount of money that was spent on public transportation was INSTEAD spent on roadway improvements, your experience traveling into Chicago would be much better.
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