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Alert Al Gore. And after he passes out, throw water on him and tell him again.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 06/20/2004 10:43:55 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 06/20/2004 10:44:16 PM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can indeed change the world.)
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Want to exponentially increase your chances of getting a flu, take mass transportation. It's about the same as catching AID's by going to the bathhouse.

I've never been so health since I stopped taking trains to work in the city as I now do working in my basement.

3 posted on 06/20/2004 10:52:22 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some know what's good for others, some make goods for others; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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Efficiency has never been the issue with mass transit. The issue has always been elimination of personal vehicles and private property right.


4 posted on 06/20/2004 11:03:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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There are so many holes in this report it's difficult to list them all.

- how much auto travel is London to Edinburgh vs. local?
- is fuel consumption the only measure of whether something is enviro friendly?
- are there lighter, lower-consumption trains available, and how would they stack up?
- supposedly the 2004 Passat gets 31 MPG highway. What's the average for those who drive passenger cars between London and Edinburgh?

etc. etc. etc.


8 posted on 06/21/2004 12:20:20 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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"The main problem is not long-distance travel but the 25 per cent of car journeys which are less than two miles. Those are the least efficient and often the most polluting."

But nobody takes the train for a journey of less than two miles. (Not talking about subways or buses or trams, etc, but full fledged trains.)

9 posted on 06/21/2004 1:22:23 AM PDT by sd-joe
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Well, I should obviously drink my coffee before I start reading FR...

I just read this title as "Cats are more fuel-efficient than trains, claims study."

(Visions of hordes of harried commuters riding cats to work...)


12 posted on 06/21/2004 3:11:34 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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Ooh, Willie Green isn't going to like THIS one!


18 posted on 06/21/2004 4:33:31 AM PDT by dinodino
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Tilting Pendolino trains, due to come into full operation between London and Manchester in the autumn, are reckoned to weigh more per seat than the forthcoming Airbus A380 double-decker.

I would HOPE so!!!!

21 posted on 06/21/2004 5:28:09 AM PDT by Elsie (There is nothing you can't achieve if you are willing to give other people the credit...)
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To: MadIvan

bump


29 posted on 06/21/2004 1:07:22 PM PDT by VOA
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