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LIVE THREAD: Bill Clinton's 60 Minutes' Interview
www.freerepublic.com | June 20, 2004

Posted on 06/20/2004 3:21:27 PM PDT by Howlin

CBS at 7:00 P.M. EDT


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; beelzebubbah; clinton; couch; danrather; impeachedrapist; liar; malignantnarcissist; mylies; mylife; slickwillie
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To: maryz

Klinton doesn't know what it means either. He's lost his mind. Either from drugs or disease.


361 posted on 06/20/2004 4:45:55 PM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

My God, he's insane; he really believes the things he's saying.


362 posted on 06/20/2004 4:45:59 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: OldFriend

I'll never call him Bubba again--he likes it. From now on, it's Slick Willy.


363 posted on 06/20/2004 4:46:07 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: Howlin

He doesn't like the nickname: Slick Willie.


364 posted on 06/20/2004 4:46:07 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: RobFromGa

"He compared the White House to a 'madhouse'? That is really disgusting. Who is the leader of the White House and who sets the agenda." ~ RobFromGa

In his article below, Fred Barnes wrote this: "His White House and his personal decision-making style were chaotic."

Here's another excerpt - which is the bottom line:

"Fred I. Greenstein [is] a political scientist at Princeton widely admired for his writings on the presidency. In The Presidential Difference, he proposes six measures for appraising the "leadership style" of presidents: public communication, organizational capacity, political skill, vision, cognitive style, and emotional intelligence.

Clinton is strong on communication, political skill, and cognitive style (absorbing and using information).

On the other three, he falls short. His White House and his personal decision-making style were chaotic. ... he stumbled badly on emotional intelligence, which Greenstein describes as "the president's ability to manage his emotions and turn them to constructive purposes, rather than being dominated by them...."

To Greenstein, emotional intelligence is the most important trait of a president.

Clinton, he says, "provided a reminder that in the absence of emotional intelligence, the presidency is a defective instrument of democratic governance."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/241yvyww.asp

The Shrinking Clinton
From the June 28, 2004 issue: Big book, small legacy.
by Fred Barnes
06/28/2004, Volume 009, Issue 40

A BOOK CANNOT ELEVATE a president. That's true even for a book marketed by Dan Rather for an hour on 60 Minutes, its publication treated like a show-stopping event by the media, its author's tour seen as the equivalent of a high-octane political campaign, and its importance signified by the expectation of an entire summer in which the author will never be far from the spotlight. Bill Clinton should not get his hopes up. Presidents are judged by their record, not their memoirs. At best, Clinton is Calvin Coolidge without the ethics and the self-restraint.

Clinton is not a failed president, only an insignificant one. In his interview with Rather to plug My Life, he claims two great accomplishments. One is "the creation of 22 million jobs." The other is the toppling of Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic in the Balkan war. So Clinton takes credit, above all, for high job growth and a positive outcome in a relatively minor foreign policy crisis. One qualification: On jobs, while Clinton deserves credit, presidents merely make jobs a bit easier or harder for the economy to create. They don't create jobs themselves, except by expanding government. In sum, Clinton's twin achievements match Coolidge's almost exactly. The highlights of Coolidge's term were a flourishing economy and triumph in three minor foreign ventures.

Clinton had three major successes in Congress during his eight years in office, but it's no surprise he downplays them. They reflect his weakness as a president. The first was passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1993. This measure was proposed by President Reagan, negotiated and signed by the first President Bush, and ratified with Republican votes as congressional Democrats abandoned Clinton in droves. The second was welfare reform that reduced the rolls dramatically. He signed this Republican bill reluctantly in 1996 only after his political adviser, Dick Morris, told him his reelection would be jeopardized if he didn't. The third Clinton success was the arrival of a balanced budget, again a goal Clinton had warily endorsed but not expected to achieve so soon.

Now consider these achievements for a moment. Do they remind you of anyone's agenda? The answer is Reagan's. All three were longstanding aims of Reagan, not of Clinton or Democrats. Yes, Clinton campaigned in 1992 on changing the welfare system "as we know it." But the bill he was forced to sign cut far more deeply into welfare rolls than Clinton wanted and was fiercely opposed by liberal Democrats. The point is that the Clinton presidency was, in effect, an extension of the Reagan presidency, though Clinton would be loath to admit this. Completing the Reagan agenda was not his intention.

There are three primary methods of assessing, then ranking, a president. None helps Clinton. The first, most-often-applied test, goes like this: Did the president face an unprecedented challenge, did he respond boldly, and was he successful? Because they passed this test so impressively, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Franklin Roosevelt are rated by historians as the top three presidents. Clinton faced no great challenge to which he could respond boldly and successfully. He was president during the period Charles Krauthammer has dubbed a "holiday from history." In fact, Clinton has complained he had no major war or crisis to confront.

The second way to judge a leader comes from the philosopher Sidney Hook. In The Hero in History, Hook distinguishes between eventful and event-making leaders. "The eventful man is a creature of events," Hook wrote. The event-making man causes events. "Both the eventful man and the event-making man appear at the forking points of history," Hook wrote. "The event-making man . . . finds a fork in the historical road, but he also helps, so to speak, to create it." Clinton was clearly not an event-making president. And it's a stretch to label him eventful. The two forks he encountered--Medicare and terrorism--he dealt with tentatively.

The third method comes from Fred I. Greenstein, a political scientist at Princeton widely admired for his writings on the presidency. In The Presidential Difference, he proposes six measures for appraising the "leadership style" of presidents: public communication, organizational capacity, political skill, vision, cognitive style, and emotional intelligence. Clinton is strong on communication, political skill, and cognitive style (absorbing and using information). On the other three, he falls short. His White House and his personal decision-making style were chaotic. Despite the talk of a "third way" in public policy, he was hardly a visionary. And he stumbled badly on emotional intelligence, which Greenstein describes as "the president's ability to manage his emotions and turn them to constructive purposes, rather than being dominated by them, and allowing them to diminish his leadership." To Greenstein, emotional intelligence is the most important trait of a president. Clinton, he says, "provided a reminder that in the absence of emotional intelligence, the presidency is a defective instrument of democratic governance."

When Clinton encountered two forks in the road, on terrorism and Medicare, he balked. Given the circumstances, that was understandable. But hesitation is not an act of bold leadership. On terrorism, he passed on the opportunity to capture or kill Osama bin Laden as he flew from Sudan to Afghanistan. True, that occurred at a time, before the 9/11 attacks, when the enormity of the threat posed by bin Laden was not yet known. On Medicare, Clinton backed away from a chance to restructure the program and save it for decades to come. But he was beset by impeachment and chose to side with his liberal backers who opposed Medicare reform and were crucial to his staying in office. Thus the decision made political sense. By balking, however, he reinforced the verdict that no book can erase. Clinton was a president of little consequence.

Fred Barnes is executive editor of The Weekly Standard.


365 posted on 06/20/2004 4:46:12 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: McGruff

DUers are probably singing Auld Lang Syne, and dropping a tear for the dear, dead days beyond recall!


366 posted on 06/20/2004 4:46:15 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Howlin

Yeah riiiiight. People hate him because he was a "change agent". Is that a Clinton euphemism for Liar ?


367 posted on 06/20/2004 4:46:29 PM PDT by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: Howlin

No, just backed up the TIVO to double check. Rather, in his own words, mentions Clinton is haunted by the 18 dead on Somalia and Rather narrates that Clinton felt it was a mistake. (Not Clinton's words)

Then Rather goes on to mention Mark Rich and asked Clinton would he do that all over again. Clinton responds,(paraphrase: No. But only because of all the grief it caused him afterwards and nobody has shown him he was actually wrong based on the merits.)


368 posted on 06/20/2004 4:46:41 PM PDT by swany
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To: TomGuy

Who ever called him Elvis?


369 posted on 06/20/2004 4:46:46 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: oceanview
They are the quintessential first wave Baby Boomers. My sister and her husband are exactly their age and are exactly like them. A certain (and very large) group of Boomers deserve Clinton - he is exactly what they are, right down to idioms and facial expressions.
370 posted on 06/20/2004 4:46:51 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: NavySEAL F-16

President Clinton told the fathers of the Rangers killed in Somalia that their deaths were the result of their being overly aggressive.


371 posted on 06/20/2004 4:47:00 PM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: Howlin

He's been peddling that line forever. Sometimes he says he's hated because he worked so hard to help blacks.


372 posted on 06/20/2004 4:47:15 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: writer33
I wasn't capable of telling the truth inhaling.
373 posted on 06/20/2004 4:47:25 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: maryz
Does anyone have any idea what that means?

It means I'm looking for King of the Hill.

Better to watch a cartoon, than a Klintoon.



TPD

374 posted on 06/20/2004 4:48:16 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (It's been a jihad for 1200 years...whats new?)
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To: swany

Where did he say that nobody had proved it was wrong.


375 posted on 06/20/2004 4:48:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Show some sympathy for us...every time I hear his despicable drawl, I turn it off or change the channel.
I would need to get combat pay to even listen to him.

I'd rather do anything than listen to the creep...the other one I cannot stomach is the Mooreon.


376 posted on 06/20/2004 4:48:18 PM PDT by eleni121 (Mt. Rushmore welcomes the Gipper!)
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To: CasearianDaoist

indeed, I have them in my family too.


377 posted on 06/20/2004 4:48:28 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: CasearianDaoist
Please do not hang him on me! I am one year younger than he is and polar opposite.

There are a lot of jerky boomers simply because there are a lot of us.

378 posted on 06/20/2004 4:48:40 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Howlin

"I tried to be a good role model for my brother." Egads!


379 posted on 06/20/2004 4:48:49 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: maryz

Good grief. The media should be wincing at this. If I were a journalist, I think I'd change my profession or never admit that I was one.


380 posted on 06/20/2004 4:49:07 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("Proud to be a Reagan American")
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