More devastating Scandal stories coming?

Bettnet.com ^ | June 16, 2004 | Domenico Bettenelli, Jr.

[Rutles4Ever]

Bettinelli reports:

I just got this message from Rod Dreher:

"On Sunday, The Dallas Morning News will begin publishing the results of a major yearlong investigation into a largely uncovered aspect of the Catholic sex abuse scandal. The series of stories are international in scope, and will make headlines nationally and overseas. I’m not at liberty to disclose details yet, but I’ve seen advanced copies of the articles, and they are devastating. I believe at this point, more details will be available on Friday morning, when one of the reporters on the series does an interview on National Public Radio’s “Morning Edition.” The stories will be available on the dallasnews.com website starting either late Saturday night or early Sunday morning.

I expect these stories to dominate conversation among concerned American Catholics next week, and into the early summer (because there will be much more to come; next week’s series only reveals part of what our reporters have uncovered and documented). These findings give lie to the claim from Church officialdom that this scandal is over. The cover-up continues."

Rod Dreher confirms:

"Not only stories, but photographs. I’ve seen the planned cover of Sunday’s DMN. The picture they’re going to run is a jaw-dropper...I hate to tell you this, but the bishops already know. They have known. They hoped you and I wouldn’t find out. That’s part of the story... Also, our people are now talking to national media about this. Starting Friday night, you might be seeing stuff about this. I’ll let Dom and others know if any early media appearances are scheduled."

[Askel5]

=== I know priests and even deacons can be jerks

Even deacons?!?!!?

Say it ain't so!

[Salvation]

**More personal failures? Imagine the worst - how bad could it be?**

Sinkspur has a post, I think on the second page, about what he thinks it might be.

[sinkspur]

I'm a divorced Catholic, I've NEVER been denied communion. Since June 1989.

Well, Peach's experience was in 1963. Priests and laymen have both wised up in the last forty years.

Plus, a priest wouldn't get away with that foolishness today.

[Askel5]

=== Quite. Hope this will stifle the Pope for awhile.


Oh please ...

No one thinks to keep US forces from "liberating" the worldd to democratism in the name of some Christian Holy War against Islam simply because abortion is the most common elective procedure in the land, our Supreme Court specifically protects for-profit "faked" cyber kiddie porn as "Free Speech" (and doesn't have the nuts to rule on the Ninth Circuit's rejection of God in the Pledge) or our President legitimizes the use of Excess Manufacture human lives as mulch for humanitarian experiments.

I find it amusing so many FReepers are so anxious to use precisely the same logic by which some argued that a nation which employs sadistic prison guards has no business pretending it's some great moral liberator of The People.

[Jaded]

Actually, my Grandmother belonged to a parish since it had opened in the late 40's. In the early 70's (72-73) her second husband divorced her. (My Grandfather died in 1964) She always went to communion. I used to wonder about that.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "I really feel a great deal of pain for catholics. I just can't help but feel that catholics as a whole are getting a bad rap."

Don't feel sorry for us
I am a neophyte to the Catholic faith but I kinda welcome this. It has been clear to me for some time that all mainline denominations are suffering from rot from within. I learned in medicine that when a wound is infected you have to clean it out. It is painful, unpleasant and at times it smells but it has to be done to save the patient. The Church will loose stature for a while but corrupt bishops shouldn't have stature in the community anyway. With luck and a strong debreeding the bishops left standing (or their replacements) will be stronger and can begin to rebuild.

[fatima]

If you are going to mention peach you should ping her to the post,it is polite.

[Jape]

So how much younger than 7 were these siblings that were denied Holy Communion because Dad left Mom the day Kennedy died? LOL!

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "And, let me say, I used to be Catholic and went to Catholic church. Until I was 8. My father walked out the door when on the day JFK was killed. My sister was 3 weeks old. There were 4 of us kids. The priest came the following week to tell my mother none of us could receive the sacrament. Previous to that, the church had been a source of comfort to her, and to us."

I'm sorry about your experience but I must say there seems to me something missing in your story (why did your dad walk out? Did he walk out of the family or the church? What was the reason the priest gave?)
Is it possible there is more to the story that was not available to an eight year old?

[sinkspur]

So how much younger than 7 were these siblings that were denied Holy Communion because Dad left Mom the day Kennedy died?

Do you only get out of your cage to ridicule?

You're too new around here to beat up on somebody like Peach.

[justanotherfreeper]

I learned in medicine that when a wound is infected you have to clean it out

Amen! I would rather the Church have fewer members, but members who are genuinely Catholic, and understand what they believe and why, then the current Kerry/Kennedy hangers-on. If we need to raze every Catholic hospital, school and church building to the ground with our own hands and jail every bishop in the country to cleanse the Faith, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Better to start over with clean earth to till.

[cibco]

Thanks Mon. I couldn't understand why someone would leave the church because Kennedy was assassinated. Everyone was upset then...

[nina0113]

bookmark for later

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

I hope the next pope is Latin American, American or African.

I don't care what he is. I just hope he's NOT a Liberal.

[TightyRighty]

Why is her story so hard to believe? Do you people not think that at sometime during the history of Catholicism a priest has not told a divorcee not to come to communion?

[JohnnyZ]

I don't think the Pope spoke for God when he called the war immoral.

Well, it's not like he's an oracle; when he consults God, it's called prayer, and I doubt he gets a booming "Heck yeah, JP, this war ain't right" from the Almighty very often. He made a judgment based on Catholic theology; other Catholics are free to make their judgments based on the very same Catholic theology. Whether a certain situation meets Just War criteria is a debatable gray area. Heck, I wanted Saddam gone since the first Gulf War. But maybe I was wrong -- who's to say that given another week of patience and faith, the hand of Providence wouldn't have swept the Baathists out of power? Then again, maybe God helps those who help themselves.

[Mark in the Old South]

Man o man calm down son.

I have been reading your post, I suggest you reread them. Your first post was a tad misleading. After reading some of your post to others I have to wonder if you don't have a habit of jumping to conclusions or reading too much into something. Could it be possible? Could your mother have misunderstood the priest and passed a mistaken notion on to her very young son?

[al_c]

No suprise. The DMN has had it out for our local bishop (Charles Grahmann) for some time now. He may not be the model bishop, but the DMN has not been completely honest in its stories on him.

[walden]

You know, your point does highlight one GLARING issue-- that there are certain jobs (priest, teacher, others) for which MUCH higher than usual standards of character must be maintained. In fact, it always used to be the case that this was so. We need to go back to that standard.

[Twinkie]

Good grief, Peach! What in the world were they
thinking to kick a woman when she was down?
We have open communion at our church (Baptist),
and the times I've wanted to just visit another
denomination to hear the sermon, I haven't done
it because I didn't want to deal with being
disallowed communion because they had judged me
not a Christian. I would wager that many people
who go and routinely take communion and are in
good standing with the "church" aren't necessarily
in good standing with the Lord. In our area, it's
the contention about musical instruments in church
mostly, otherwise there aren't two cents worth of
difference in the basic doctrines.