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To: DannyTN
I don't think the Pope spoke for God when he called the war immoral.

Well, it's not like he's an oracle; when he consults God, it's called prayer, and I doubt he gets a booming "Heck yeah, JP, this war ain't right" from the Almighty very often. He made a judgment based on Catholic theology; other Catholics are free to make their judgments based on the very same Catholic theology. Whether a certain situation meets Just War criteria is a debatable gray area. Heck, I wanted Saddam gone since the first Gulf War. But maybe I was wrong -- who's to say that given another week of patience and faith, the hand of Providence wouldn't have swept the Baathists out of power? Then again, maybe God helps those who help themselves.

196 posted on 06/17/2004 1:39:45 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: JohnnyZ

Well, I agree with you. It's not like I got a direct message from God saying "SUPPORT BUSH and the POPE IS WRONG".

I'm making a value decision about is the cost of the war and the collateral damage and the human suffering worth the cost of terrorism and the collateral damage and the human suffering if we don't go to war.

My objection and the reason for posting was the comment about the Authority to make those comments came from God and the implication that GOD Himself had spoken. I agree the authority to speak comes from God, as it does to all believers, but I severely doubt in this situation that God had specifically told the Pope to denounce the war.


203 posted on 06/17/2004 1:58:12 PM PDT by DannyTN
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