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Female Ky. School Workers See Strip Show
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Posted on 06/17/2004 7:21:12 AM PDT by esryle

COVINGTON, Ky. (AP) -- When Covington schools Superintendent Jack Moreland saw an advertisement for a Chippendales show, he thought it would be a good morale booster for his female employees. So he shelled out $420 to send 20 female staff members to a Chippendales show to see buff men strip off most of their clothing.

It worked, but it also raised the ire of at least one person, who wrote an anonymous letter to the state Office of Education Accountability accusing Moreland of using school-district funds to pay for the strip show.

Moreland said he spent $420 of his own money for the show - and faxed his personal credit-card receipt to investigators.

"I did it in fun, and they went in fun, and I don't think there was any harm done," he said.

Bryan Jones, a lawyer for the Office of Education Accountability, said he couldn't confirm or deny whether his office looked into a complaint.

The women who attended the show said they enjoyed it.

"We just laughed and laughed and laughed," said Jena Meehan, the superintendent's secretary. "It was a spectacle, to be sure, and to have all of us there was even funnier."

Chippendales is a high-class male revue that became popular in the 1980s. Well-muscled young men wearing bow-ties and bare chests strip to scanty undies for female audiences.

Moreland is the former president of the Council for Better Education, the superintendents group that brought the historic lawsuit that resulted in the Kentucky Education Reform Act of 1990 and its revolutionary reform of Kentucky's public schools.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: governmenteducation; homeschoolnow; kentucky; moralrelativism; romans1; sexed; sexeducation; whateverfeelsgood
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To: reagandemo

seems like fast women and beautiful horses


141 posted on 06/17/2004 12:04:24 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Thanks. I saw that skit several times. Farley and Swayze were wonderful indeed, especially acting girlish waiting for the decision of the judges.


142 posted on 06/17/2004 12:05:42 PM PDT by jimfree (Never did no wanderin' after all.)
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To: Colofornian

so true--i agree


143 posted on 06/17/2004 12:06:32 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: DannyTN
It's morally reprehensible. He's sending teachers to a strip show to lust after men who are not their husbands.

So what? Men lust after women and women lust after men all the time - that's called human nature. He didn't send them out to buy some gigolos for the night. THAT would be morally reprehensible. ANd more expensive...

144 posted on 06/17/2004 12:08:08 PM PDT by livianne
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To: Oztrich Boy

Thanks for your correction - you are just a bit late.... already been corrected...


145 posted on 06/17/2004 12:09:08 PM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: livianne
"The point of teaching children morality, IMHO, is so that as adults they can tell the difference between a fun night out and utter depravity, so that they can make decisions that don't harm them as adults. These women are already adults, and didn't do anything harmful. "

Perhaps not overtly harmful, however it is clear that these adults do not know the difference between a fun night out and depravity because they chose depravity. Not utter depravity but depravity none the less.

While they may not have gone back to class and made a full report, thereby directly harming the kids, it reflects on their value system and whether they are competent to be good role models for the kids.

To imply as you did in an earlier posts that because parents can't know a person's entire morality, that they should not insist that those involved in children's education uphold at least in public a level of decency is wrong. We may not be able to perfectly control the morality that is taught in public schools to our young, but to suggest that we should abandon all hope of trying and all standards is an extreme position. We should not have to pull our kids out of public schools in order to insist on having teachers with some level of decency.

146 posted on 06/17/2004 12:10:27 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: livianne
"So what? Men lust after women and women lust after men all the time - that's called human nature. He didn't send them out to buy some gigolos for the night. THAT would be morally reprehensible. ANd more expensive..."

There is a lot about "human nature" that God flat out condemns. That we've inherited a sin nature due to Adam's rebellion does not justify the behavior.

This Superintendent is not morally fit to be leading the school systems and the teacher's that accepted his invitation are not morally fit to be teaching our young.

147 posted on 06/17/2004 12:13:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Colofornian

Have you ever SEEN the atmosphere at male strip clubs? It's social, jovial, full of laughter. They don't get fully naked (cuz that would look even funnier :) ) - dancing men in speedos and bow ties are funny, NOT sexy. Comparing attending that with having sex with students or selling their bodies for money is utterly out of line with reality.


148 posted on 06/17/2004 12:14:41 PM PDT by livianne
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To: livianne
"For one thing, (and here comes that nasty double standard!) men in strip clubs looking at women are far more lascivious than women in strip clubs looking at men. It's just a different environment. It's much more social. Were they stripping, they would be in an entirely different situation than being at a male strip club."

Yup, and thank goodness it wasn't a CFNM party, lol! And if one does not know what that is.... just google it ;)

149 posted on 06/17/2004 12:15:21 PM PDT by Flipyaforreal
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To: DannyTN
It wouldn't be ok, because the Superintendent is promoting public nudity.

it would be, if it was in public as opposed to a privately owned establishment AND if they actually got naked which they don't. so no, he wasn't.

150 posted on 06/17/2004 12:16:47 PM PDT by livianne
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To: ICX
You wrote:

"I can't believe this is an AP article."

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Why is that...?

FWIW-

151 posted on 06/17/2004 12:18:48 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Truth is the oxygen of a self-governing people......................................................)
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To: Osage Orange

Not that I should be surprised by this by now, but the language in the article is totally vapid and unprofessional. You wouldn't expect an 'unbiased' and 'objective' news source to call the Chippendales 'high class' or use the phrase 'scanty undies.' Simply saying 'the women went to Chippendales, a nude male revue' would have sufficed.


152 posted on 06/17/2004 12:20:57 PM PDT by ICX (PANTIES ON HEADS!!! THE OUTRAGE!!!)
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To: DannyTN
It's a public place in the sense of being open to the general public for commerce. Such places are regulated in practically every community in America, whether privately owned or not.

only the general public with an ID proving they are an adult, and money for a cover charge. And once they are an adult, they get to make their own decisions. ANd having walked in the door, they have. therefore, no one exposed to this was surprised about it. Not my idea of public.

And Baywatch isn't technically a flash show, like my cousin calls it. But we know it is.

Sure it is, but it isn't nudity, and neither is Chippendale's.

153 posted on 06/17/2004 12:21:39 PM PDT by livianne
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To: vikingchick

Personally, I prefer the 'Thunder From Down Under' all male revue...LOL! They do not accept tips and the show is classier (if there is such a thing).


154 posted on 06/17/2004 12:23:15 PM PDT by BossLady (What do your choices cost you????)
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To: livianne
""Not my idea of public."

Perhaps not, but appropriate termed a "public place" in the English language since at least the 17th century.

155 posted on 06/17/2004 12:24:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: valleygal
Let's put it this way, I wouldn't go back to my OB-GYN if I found out he sat at his home computer, even if only once in awhile, looking at pornography.

what about if he has sex with his wife? that still involves seeing women sexually. The question is - does he bring it to the office? If not, what on earth does it matter?

i'm all for moral behavior, but people are way too quick to say what others should be allowed to do when it doesn't affect ANYONE

156 posted on 06/17/2004 12:24:51 PM PDT by livianne
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To: esryle
"I did it in fun, and they went in fun, and I don't think there was any harm done," he said.

"And I'm in charge of your kids' education. At least I didn't tell them to pray!"

157 posted on 06/17/2004 12:27:03 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: esryle

to send 20 female staff members to a Chippendales show .....

I'll bet the show was across the river in Sincinnati


158 posted on 06/17/2004 12:27:51 PM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: DannyTN

A friend I went to high school with is a guidance counselor in the public schools. He helped my daughter a lot in school this year as she scrambled to get ready to go to college next year. A few times over the years he's come to a party at our house and a couple of those times he most certainly drank one too many but never did this in front of any students. Should he be disqualified from being a counselor because soem people consider overimbibing immoral (heck, some people consider drinking even one beer immoral)?


159 posted on 06/17/2004 12:30:19 PM PDT by Gone GF
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To: DannyTN

And I do think the superintendent is an idiot.


160 posted on 06/17/2004 12:31:39 PM PDT by Gone GF
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