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Posted on 06/14/2004 8:33:00 AM PDT by dakine

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To: Mulder
Americans need to learn to fend for themselves. The first step is the development of a "warrior mentality" which is nothing more than a mental commitment that you WILL defend your life, property, and Freedom (as well as that of your friends, family, and neighbors) from all threats. The subsequent step is to acquire the tools and training to do so.

Exactly...very well said. Any government efforts need to be implemented with that in mind, to compliment that.

That is the message of the mall scene and most of the other CONUS terror attacks throiughout the Dragon's Fury Series.

361 posted on 06/15/2004 5:13:18 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Pres Reagan...your memory and impact have not dimmed...only aged and grown stronger!)
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To: FL_engineer
Minneapolis also has the largest Somali population. Columbus is second...

Someone told me that Detroit, Michigan has the largest Mosque in the US. You mean there are two others now that are just as big or bigger???

362 posted on 06/15/2004 5:28:25 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: dakine; StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

UNITED STATES v. NURADIN M. ABDI (June 14, 2004)
A Somali Native Is Accused By Federal Prosecutors Of
Being Involved In A Plot, On Behalf Of Al Qaeda, To
Bomb A Shopping Mall In Ohio

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http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/abdi/usabdi61004ind.html


363 posted on 06/15/2004 5:29:08 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: dakine

The real news this morining is that the lamestream media is burying this story on the back pages. USA Today has a tiny blurb pn the front page that mentions nothing about terrorism. The Tennessean decided that a ruling by the city council on the height of weeds in ones yard was front page headline material while the story of a thwarted terrorist plot got page 7A.


364 posted on 06/15/2004 5:37:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The real news this morining is that the lamestream media is burying this story on the back pages. USA Today has a tiny blurb pn the front page that mentions nothing about terrorism. The Tennessean decided that a ruling by the city council on the height of weeds in ones yard was front page headline material while the story of a thwarted terrorist plot got page 7A.

Yes! I woke up to Fox News saying that "there never WAS any threat to any Malls in Ohio!" What the heck gives here?

365 posted on 06/15/2004 6:31:14 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: cupcakes

Isn't that close to the Pontifical College Josephinum? I have a friend whose brother went to school there.


366 posted on 06/15/2004 6:51:56 AM PDT by NCjim
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To: kcvl
"If you have any kind of Islamic background -- I don't care what John Ashcroft and Tom Ridge say -- you'll be subject to a different kind of scrutiny."

You say this as if it's bad... I can only hope that you are right!

367 posted on 06/15/2004 6:56:52 AM PDT by NCjim
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To: dakine

In Ohio, a key battleground state in the election. Are they attempting to influence the election like they did in Spain?


368 posted on 06/15/2004 7:40:25 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Destro
Is New York considered the brain land or the wallet land?

New York is to be found closer to the wallet, IMO.

369 posted on 06/15/2004 7:45:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SheLion
>>Someone told me that Detroit, Michigan has the largest Mosque in the US. You mean there are two others now that are just as big or bigger???

I never said anything about the size of churches.

Somalians are some of the poorest people on the planet. If they come here and just live on welfare, they are RICH in comparison. (but that doesn't leave a lot of cash left for building huge mosques)

370 posted on 06/15/2004 8:28:10 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
Somalians are some of the poorest people on the planet. If they come here and just live on welfare, they are RICH in comparison. (but that doesn't leave a lot of cash left for building huge mosques)

Sorry. My mistake. I'm getting the two groups mixed up. :-)

371 posted on 06/15/2004 9:13:30 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Last summer I was in the food court in Pentagon Centre and saw this bearded guy who looked Middle Eastern with a video camera methodically filming the food court. He walked all the way around, then stood in the center and slowly panned up to the third floor, lingering on the escalator area. It entirely creeped me out, especially since it is forbidden to film or take pictures in that mall. I tried to find a security guard but had no luck. When I got home I called the security office at the mall to report what I'd seen, and was greeted with a ho-hum. I haven't been back since, although it's close to where I live, except to go to Nordstrom's at the other end of the mall. I still think they are planning something for this location, across Army-Navy Drive from the Pentagon itself.


372 posted on 06/15/2004 9:26:08 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: ExSoldier

If you are discovered carrying a concealed weapon, then you aren't doing it right, in my opinion.


373 posted on 06/15/2004 1:03:20 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun...more than one, if possible..)
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To: Mulder

The very first day I ever carried legally, it was to the Charleston Town Center Mall in Charleston West Virginia. If any of you know that mall, it is an ambush waiting to happen.

And although I still carry, I have chosen to forego the indoor malls. I know a little about escape and evasion, and the lack of numerous exits makes the average suburban indoor mall a potential killzone.

If you want to see a ripe candidate to attack, look at the town center again. The parking garage is designed as such that a gas tanker parked on the bottom floor could collapse the whole shooting match.

And no, it's not my imagination, an anti terrorist analyst with the state police pointed that out to me.

Only go to the malls where you can drive up to the door. Target stores, Wal Marts, etc. At least one has a chance there.


374 posted on 06/15/2004 1:16:46 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun...more than one, if possible..)
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To: Armedanddangerous
"If you are discovered carrying a concealed weapon, then you aren't doing it right, in my opinion."

ROFLOL! You've made a durn good point! Lot's of folks, including myself, at times use the unofficial "uniform" of the permit holder: The Banana Republic Photographer's Vest. You see somebody wearing one of these or a clone and he's got no camera gear and it's almost 100% that person is armed. Same as with the slightly oversized (I have one of these too, carrying it today) belly bag with the telltale signature the little pull tab exposed at one corner to expose the interior holster. Look carefully and you can spot it. OR the guy who wears an ankle holster and sometimes screams in pain as the gun knocks the inside of the opposite ankle. This can be seen when the subject sits. I am forever asking my wife if I'm "printing" as I wear a cover garment. She knows exactly what I'm asking. Takes practice.

375 posted on 06/15/2004 2:08:47 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: FL_engineer
Minneapolis is considered to have the largest Somali population in the United States, thus the capital city for Somalis.

Sounds as though the big beautiful Basilica in downtown Mpls. will soon be covered by a dome.

376 posted on 06/15/2004 11:53:07 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Don't feed the terrorists)
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To: Jeff Head

Find the book The Final Jihad and read the blueprint of what is going on today. It is by Michael Keating, brother to the ex-Gov of Oklahoma.


377 posted on 06/16/2004 8:55:06 AM PDT by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: newgeezer

If you include SE MI in the heartland, it hasn't been secure in years.


378 posted on 06/16/2004 9:19:58 AM PDT by Righty1
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To: petercooper

You know, this may make the fastidious uncomfortable, but I think that the INS needs to be restructured at the very least. How is it that we keep letting in those who won't assimilate? I ask rhetorically.


379 posted on 06/16/2004 11:21:59 AM PDT by ashtanga
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To: Jeff Head

Funny saying about the Cowboys and Muslims! Israelis are more armed then Americans. Every citizen, including women, must serve in the military. Males are two years and I believe females are one year. Every home has a gun. They have been dealing with this for close to 40 years.

I don't think we will ever get the cooperation out of non-militant, Islamic Americans. Their religion forbids it.


380 posted on 06/23/2004 5:08:57 PM PDT by quant5
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