Al Qaeda Takes Responsibility for Downing Flight AA-587

Northeast Intelligence Network ^ | Jun 3,2004

[NetValue]

28 May 2004 - Al Qaeda lists successes since 9/11 on Global Islamic Media; Includes 2001 downing of American Airlines flight 587 that went down over Queens

In a stunning revelation to the Global Islamic Media Group this morning, Al Qaeda has revealed that they were responsible for the downing of American Airlines flight 587 over Queens in November 2001.

The article, published this morning on Global Islamic Media's Yahoogroup, lists the successes that Al Qaeda has achieved since the attack on America in September 2001. Al Qaeda has previously claimed credit for all of the other attacks on the list. The cause of the AA flight 587 crash is still listed by the FAA as accidental, with no indications of terrorism.

The following list itemizes the attacks that they are claiming:

Downing of the American Airlines plane over the Queens district of New York (City) on the 26th day of Shaban in the (Islamic) year 1422, equivalent to November 12th, 2001, killing 265 passengers as well as residents of that district. Bali nightclub attack in Indonesia that killed more than 200. Attack on Djerba, Tunisia Jewish temple, killing 20 German Jews. Attack at Faylakah in Kuwait. Attack on the French tanker Limburgh in Yemen. Attacks on Mombasa in Kenya against Jewish tourists, who were attacked in the their hotel, and the unsuccessful attack on the El Al airline with two missiles. Attack on the Marriott Hotel in the Indonesian capital Attacks in eastern of Riyadh, on residential districts where Americans and other westerners live Electrical power blockouts in the northern portions of America and the southern areas of Canada Electrical power blackouts in Great Britain. Attacks in Istanbul against the Jewish synagogues. Attachs in Istanbul battles against the British bank and the British consulate, in which the British consul was killed. Battle of Badr Riyadh in the residential complex Attack on the United Nations building in Baghdad in which Sirgo Des Milo, Kofi Annan's envoy, was killed Attacks in Nasserya against the Italian forces Attacks in Casablanca Attempted assassination of a dangerous ally of America, Pervez Musharraf Attacks in Madrid against three trains, killing 200 and injuring more than 1500 injured,

[Publius6961]

Guess this puts the NTSB out of business.

Are arab/muslims all morons? or do they just act that way?

[Publius6961]

Psst.. it's an international project. Would you believe that Airbus are being built in the US?

Really? Where?

I am not holding my breath for an answer...

[AmericanChef]

Oh, heck, if they'd done this one, they surely would've taken credit for it sooner, to add to the existing 9-11 panic and impress their other terrorist buddies.

[TomGuy]

But there was a guy with a missile theory, for 587. I'll look for it.

See post 59 from Newsmax.

[wtc911]

Thanks for finding that.

[MoodyBlu]

Greetings!

I don't know how much you follow the aircraft crash threads that pop up here, so if this is a first time, whacko theories abound.

Some people just cannot accept that at times things break. There was an article in USA Today (probably elsewhere as well) this past Tuesday that talked about the tail of AAL587 and the hard rudder movements that could have been the prime cause of the tail failure.

Thanks for your reasoned input.

MoodyBlu
Air Traffic Controller
Recreational pilot

[COEXERJ145]

An Al-Qaeda website isn't exactly the most reputable news source. Of course a lot of people here think every plane crash is an act of terrorism so this will just reinforce their beliefs.

[ARCADIA]

...the First Officer at the controls, incorrectly implimented violent hard rudder movements - side to side rapidly.

Why would anyone design an aircraft with a rudder that can move at one level of stress and a rudder actuator that is designed to easily exceed the rudders maximum stress level?

There are limits, and the crew can destroy the aircraft through wrongful manipulation of the controls; but this aircraft was traveling at relatively low speeds, and performing a maneuver, that no matter how ill advised, was something that was actually taught and practiced as a routine part of their training regimen. The frame should not have failed, and if it failed, it was because something was wrong with that particular aircraft.

[ARCADIA]

Why haven't they named their martyr?

A clerk who ships four improperly heat treated (or tampered) bolts to an AA maintenance facility need not martyr himself to create this disaster.

[wita]

Doesn't matter, I still don't like em. Too noisy inside, sounds like you are inside the bowels of the aircraft when the flaps and gear come down. Then there is the video of the one taking out the trees, when the computer said land and the pilot didn't want to. Yea, I know that has been fixed, but I still don't like fly by wire. Guess I'll just have to get used to it, because virtually everything is fly by wire.

[wtc911]

"There was an article in USA Today (probably elsewhere as well) this past Tuesday that talked about the tail of AAL587 and the hard rudder movements that could have been the prime cause of the tail failure."

You fail to peport that the NTSB report specifically said that the potential problem in the tail assembly did not contribute to the crash. They could not have been more clear.

"Some people just cannot accept that at times things break" "Whacko theories abound"

Let's all ignore the eyewitness accounts rendered by retired FDNY and retired NYPD (see post 59) members who live in Belle Harbor and saw the event up close. We all know how unreliable those slackers are.

[TheBattman]

When they share plausible evidence for how they were able to carry out this attack - details please - then I will believe them....

But I'm not saying they couldn't have pulled it off - they very well may have.

[COEXERJ145]

For those who say it is impossible to over stress the rudder and vertical fin enough to cause it to break off, there is something that needs to be remembered about that particular aircraft. N14053 suffered tail damage during a hard landing years before her loss. If it was not properly repaired, the over time the normal operating stress could have weakened the vertical fin causing it to break off when subjected to extremely high levels of stress.

[r9etb]

I heard that A-Q also took credit for the overflowing toilet in the bathroom here at work. It was certainly terrifying....

[r9etb]

From the pictures I saw, theris NO WAY fatigue took that tail off.

Is it proper to speak of "fatigue" in a composite structure, in the same way you would of a metal one? FWIW, the most likely failure scenario -- the initial sharp rudder movements causing an already weakened composite tail mounting assembly to snap -- is reasonable. We know the tail did snap off (and was not blown off by a bomb) very early in timeline, and I think everything else can be tied to it.

As Freud said, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

[COBOL2Java]

Of course, since al Quaida operates outside of time and logic, let us not forget their involvement in the Ice Age, manipulating the climate and thereby terrorizing "infidel" rodents...

[Tommyjo]

Apologies. I was getting mixed up with proposals and US component parts manufacturers. The US involvement in Airbus products is high. With the A380 it is quite substantial with the Witchita facility involved in the A380 joint-wing design. Airbus spends more money with suppliers in the U.S. than in any other country. A California firms builds the composite tail structure on the A380 before its shipment to Europe. The Airbus consortium had serious visions about setting up an assembly plant in the US:

Link

[CJ Wolf]

"I don't believe Al Qaeda was behind this for a second."

I know they were.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

What's tinfoil about this story?

It's time people realized the threat is real and the enemy determined.

If it looks like terrorism, and it smells like terrorism, and it acts like terrorism...