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Christian lied about faith to survive Saudi siege
Reuters ^ | 31 May 2004 14:43:21 GMT | Samia Nakhoul

Posted on 05/31/2004 9:00:49 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia, May 31 (Reuters) - A Christian Arab who was held captive by al Qaeda militants in Saudi Arabia said on Monday he lied to them about his faith and praised their battle against the West, to save his life.

Nizar Hajazeen, a Jordanian software businessmen who was at the Tower hotel in the Oasis compound during the 25-hour drama in Khobar, said the militants lectured him about Islam and their aim to liberate Saudi Arabia from "infidels and crusaders".

The complex where the militants held about 50 foreigners -- including some Westerners -- was their last target in the violence in the eastern Saudi oil city in which they killed at least 22 people.

Hajazeen, 32, had tried to call a cab to go to work on Saturday but the phone lines were jumbled.

"I went down and the Filipino receptionist told me there were terrorists in the compound and gunshots were heard," he told Reuters.

He tried to help security guards close the hotel entrance gate but the lock did not work and a manager recommended he hide, Hajazeen said.

"I went to the room of a Jordanian colleague. Someone banged violently on the door. We opened and there were two men, one with a machinegun, another with a revolver. They were wearing black track suits," he said, adding that one had a wounded arm.

Both were in their twenties.

"They asked us if we were Arab or Westerners. We told them: 'We're Arab'.

"One then asked if I was a Christian or a Muslim. I told him we were Muslims and showed him my colleague's Koran as proof. I told him we supported them and that we were against America and Europe. I had to say that."

"HAPPY BIRTHDAY"

Residents of the compound said the attackers asked everyone they encountered if they were Muslim or Christian, before taking them hostage or killing them.

An Oasis manager said the gunmen shot and killed several Westerners as soon as they entered the complex.

The gunmen made two Indian hotel staff with master keys show them where the Westerners were, Hajazeen said.

His brother called him on his mobile phone to wish him a happy birthday -- a day late -- just as the militants were saying their motive was to drive Americans and Christians from their country.

"They asked me to turn off my mobile but did not take it away as they did with others," Hajazeen said, adding that they told him and his colleague to stay in the room and left.

"We stayed locked in our room. One of us was hiding in the shower, another one was hiding in the bathtub," Hajazeen said, adding that from time to time they sneaked back into the bedroom to watch the news on television.

He said that before commandos freed them on Sunday, compound security guards called his mobile to ask him to check if the militants had rigged his floor with explosives. He found nothing.

"Before the commandos came, there was heavy gunfire and one explosion shook the hotel. We could hear glass being smashed, screams... It sounded like someone was giving out orders."

Saudi security forces later called them out, saying: "Do not be scared."

Making his way to freedom he saw the bodies of four Indians and an Italian cook.

"They had been shot dead. Some were on the staircases."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; christianarabs; coward; hostages; khobar; radicalmuslims; saudiarabia
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
I would thank God would make an exception for such times.

Interesting opinion given your tagline.

141 posted on 05/31/2004 9:54:29 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Evil doesn't want to leave you alone. It wants to draw you in and force you into complicity. - Keyes)
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To: inflation

I said, "But then, you must not be a Christian, or else you'd understand."

You said, "IOW, anyone who does not hold the EXACT same views as you isn't a Christian?"

I did not say that since you do not believe as I, you are not a Christian.

A little angry, are you?


142 posted on 05/31/2004 9:54:34 AM PDT by It's me
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To: DocRock
"Matthew 10:32-33 "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." This is the first thing I thought of when I read the headline. Very sad."

Same here. But remember that Peter did the very same thing, and it was in a far less dangerous situation when *he* was tempted.

143 posted on 05/31/2004 9:55:30 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: aruanan

Why do you claim to know more that God?

Perhaps this happend so the story would get out. As they say, dead men tell no tales.


144 posted on 05/31/2004 9:55:59 AM PDT by inflation (Cuba = BAD, China = Good? Why, should not both be treated the way Cuba is?)
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To: aruanan
Learn just a little something about theology, worldviews, and expediency.

Why don't you learn something about whom one must confess to.

145 posted on 05/31/2004 9:56:00 AM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: hunter112
Would you have told the Nazis that there were Jews in your attic? Some vengeful deity you have there, that forbids lying to representatives of the devil himself.

You need a little more work on making apt and careful distinctions.
146 posted on 05/31/2004 9:56:04 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: SoCal Pubbie; All
Good post.

To All: If i were in that situation, the first thing that would come to my mind is the verse in Matthew that several have referenced here.

I hope and pray that i would be strong enough to honor it. I was not judging the Jordanian. I feel tremendously sad for what happened over there.

147 posted on 05/31/2004 9:56:22 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: It's me

You said that, since the poster didn't hold what you understand to be truth as true that he wasn't a Christian.

That the same thing, as clintoon like parsing of your words will not make it mean anything different.


148 posted on 05/31/2004 9:57:18 AM PDT by inflation (Cuba = BAD, China = Good? Why, should not both be treated the way Cuba is?)
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To: inflation
Why do you claim to know more that God?

Well, if the guy actually repented, then he'd be formerly-formerly-Christian. But who said anything about claiming to know more than God?
149 posted on 05/31/2004 9:57:57 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: RaceBannon
Pod, if he HAD eternal life, he still has it.

No. One can lose his salvation, as referenced in Revelations when Jesus talks of "removing one's lampstand from its place" and "erasing their name from the lamb's book of life". It could be argued that Judas was saved at one point but..well..look what happened to him.

150 posted on 05/31/2004 9:58:01 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: SheLion
"I did not judge. Please read my original post. I am careful when posting. I only said that is the scripture that came to my mind and I was sad. Thanks"

"We are getting hit with some pretty hard rocks, here, Doc! I never did like someone putting words in my mouth. A lot of posters read this and without bothering to go back to see if we really said that, they don't. And we are left to look like the egg heads here."

That is why I'm very careful when I post. As previously posted, "be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." That scripture has some context, too! Matthew 10:16 "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents and as harmless as doves." This is good advice from the Good Shepherd.
151 posted on 05/31/2004 9:58:35 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: inflation

Go back and read other replies to your comments. I think you should calm down and actually read what is written.

Relax.


152 posted on 05/31/2004 9:58:42 AM PDT by It's me
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To: Recovering_Democrat

He is no different, I agree.


153 posted on 05/31/2004 9:59:00 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: sinkspur
Why don't you learn something about whom one must confess to.

Adding a bit more content would make your post more informative.
154 posted on 05/31/2004 9:59:13 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: inflation

Perhaps. I'm not smart enough to know.


155 posted on 05/31/2004 10:00:00 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: OldCorps
Had the man cofessed that he is a Christian, recited the Nicean Creed

Oh fer cryin out loud! Recite a creed?!? That is nowhere in the Bible?

156 posted on 05/31/2004 10:00:54 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: isthisnickcool
Nothing wrong with lying to the Moslem scum...

Absolutely right - I would only hope that I had a similar presence of mind if so confronted.

I can only conclude that the various condemners on this thread hate this God-given life.

157 posted on 05/31/2004 10:01:02 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Maria S
"I often wonder what these folks think about things like "shalt not kill" and "shall not commit adultry"...how do they excuse what King David did? I'm pretty sure he made it to Heaven."

At what mental cost Maria?

Your argument is one like my kids try to use. "Daddy, ___ took some cookies without asking. So I should get some cookies too."

158 posted on 05/31/2004 10:02:30 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: Polybius

Well --- Jesus could forgive him --- but this man will always need to live in fear now --- he might have become a Muslim for a few minutes to save his life, but once a Muslim, always a Muslim --- they can kill him now for trying to change back to Christianity. It's the death penalty for any who try to leave that religion.


159 posted on 05/31/2004 10:02:48 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Delta 21
He should enjoy the time he has left on earth. It will be more pleasant than what is in store for him.

It's very easy to damn this guy while you're sitting in the safety of your home.

160 posted on 05/31/2004 10:02:49 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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