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Terri Schindler-Schiavo MAY & JUNE 2004 DAILIES
http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ | May 22, 2004 | floriduh voter

Posted on 05/22/2004 7:07:30 AM PDT by floriduh voter

Believers in the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence:

Where is Terri's independence?

I'm talking about her independence to learn and to be free from her lonely room.

To kick off Terri's May-June 2004 Dailies, our first article is by Deroy Murdock of Scripps Howard News Service.

Let Terri Schiavo's Parents Restore Her Dignity. May 22, 2004

http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/images/columnists/deroymurdock.jpg

Derry Murdock


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Pennsylvania
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To: pc93
I hope you saw my post of Swope's CV. When Terri collapsed, he was in the homocide unit of the Pinellas County Sheriff's office.

Which LE came when 9-11 was finally called after Michael called Terri's dad and told him she was "dead" but I believe her brother had shown up by that time because he lived in the same complex. (that's my recollection).

241 posted on 05/27/2004 6:43:16 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: pc93

Terri's physician chosen by Michael is Stanton Tripodis. He has/had FIVE malpractice suits against him. Hospice of the Fla Suncoast will take the throwaway doctors and staff imo. We saw some of them yesterday.


242 posted on 05/27/2004 6:45:00 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: floriduh voter; Sean Hannity
October 21st

A Catholic miraculous medal of the Blessed Virgin Mary that had been blessed by Pope John Paul II was brought to Terri Schiavo to be placed on her person, bedside or where she could visibly see it in her room at Woodside Hospice.

However, the medal could not be given to her because in fact, all religious holy cards of various saints and various Catholic artifacts had been removed from her room and thrown away. We were fore-warned that if the medal was placed anywhere in her room or on her body it would be thrown away.

(Satanic cult possibly in our little burg?)

Has Pat Anderson EVER asked in court WHY Terri is not allowed any comforts? Has Pat EVER asked for an explanation as to WHY an artifact blessed by the POPE is not allowed to be in Terri's room in a place where she can see it? Has there EVER been an answer given as to WHY>>>?

THIS IS SO INFURIATING! Simple questions that NEED to be asked in front of a judge...and perfect questions for those who work in the nursing home and hospice death helpers to hear.

It is time to prick the emotions of everyone in Pinellas County...it is time for furor to erupt.

Why not write to the local newspapers and ASK if they can answer this question? Along with the broken wheelchair question!!! Is MS trying to keep Terri hidden away so that no one can see how she really is...or is he trying to break her spirit and strong will to live (as in, in his own words, " Is the bitch dead yet?").

243 posted on 05/27/2004 6:45:35 AM PDT by Republic
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To: Republic; Thermopylae; Theodore R.; Pegita
Theodore R.: Can anyone cite the chapter and verse in reference to the corruption of "justice."

Republic: I wish I knew, somewhere in the back of my mind I know what you are trying to get at...I'd like to review those words as well.

I'm not sure which one Theodore R. is speaking of, but Isaiah 59 comes to mind, in particular verses 14 and 15:

And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. Yea, truth faileth; and he [that] departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw [it], and it displeased him that [there was] no judgment.


244 posted on 05/27/2004 6:56:43 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: tutstar
Wheelchair denied by the guardian from hell. Terri's main nurse said she's never taken Terri outside and that witness has been Terri's nurse for THREE YEARS. Imagine only going outside for ambulance rides to a hospital who won't let you in or ambulance rides for HOAXES. And, Hospice called Michael about it but didn't call Dr. Stanton Tripodis until 4 or 5 hours later.

If it had been an emergency and MS was called instead of her so called doctor, MS could order Hospice not to treat Terri. That's the business they're in.

I heard as plain as day one of the Hospice witness #3 stated "We were told to call Michael on all things." (gasp from the audience).

DR. TRIPODIS didn't arrive at Park Side until 10:00 p.m. even though the alleged marks were discovered at 3:45 p.m. THERE WAS NO IMMINENT DANGER per my notes from witness #3. Witness #1, Janice Vangelinos, imo perjured herself and SHE TALKED TO MICHAEL BEFORE SHE TALKED TO THE CLEARWATER POLICE on April 1, 2004. Her testimony on the stand differed from what was in the Police Report.

245 posted on 05/27/2004 6:57:24 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: Republic

The local newspaper shills for Michael. Hundreds of letters have gone to them but they are covering the Iraq war, etc. instead. They do not print Terri letters to the editor. I've only seen one since last fall and that was by an attorney who had some connection to the case earlier on.


246 posted on 05/27/2004 7:04:34 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: tutstar; Saundra Duffy; FL_engineer; cyn; Dante3; pickyourpoison

247 posted on 05/27/2004 7:26:17 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: Alamo-Girl; floriduh voter; cyn; Pegita; pc93; Theodore R.; Saundra Duffy; Brad's Gramma
Thank you so much AG. Thank you, again. It hurts to know that our Father, with the tremendous crys for help he sustains, is also dealing with judges, blessed to live and practice under a constitution I believe to be inspired by our Father, who corrupt its intent. Thank you for the biblical reference, for your time and your willingness to help-I just love you.

I believe this is a mountain that prayer can move.

There is something insidious and extremely void of love worming its way thru this story, there is an almost gleeful will to cause great suffering on Terri and her familys' part, and an almost constant thread in the background of a 'let's wait this out until Terri gives up her spirit' theme creeping thru the dirty trenches of Michael and Felos and Bushnell and Greer's actions. Delays in such a sensitive case, that crys out so much for justice, are, in themselves, a cruel abuse of justice.

Something moving thru this sad tragedy that caused an immediate and direct and most probably, inspired, words to burst from Pat Anderson towards Deborah Bushnell at the end of the recent courtroom hearing. I know I was stunned when I read FV's reporting of that interaction.

I hope everyone is making a solid attempt to join in prayer at 11:00 AM everyday for this fighter and her family! I know I forget (had to put a note on my dashboard in my car....). And altho I know exact timing does not matter to our Father, I do know, that when I pray for this family, I ask our Lord Jesus the Christ to join my heart with all of you who are praying for Terri.

God has answered so many prayers, we have all experienced this right here on FR, that it makes me weep to think of it...He knows our outrage and feelings of impotence regarding this situation, however, He has also told us, thru His Son, that if we have the faith of a tiny mustard seed, and believe, we, you and I and EVERYONE, can move vitual mountains.

Let's stand on this together, for real, and for as long as it takes to understand God's will regarding this nightmare...and if ya have a bottle of mustard seed in your spice cabinent-grab one now and then- I do- and reflect on how tiny that little seed is, and how little our Father is asking of us, gee, if we can muster enough faith in our Dad in Heaven, to match the size of that tiny seed, what wonders we can help bring about! What a reflection of how much our Father loves us! Talk about unbalanced, His love overflows, and ours? IF it can fit into a mustard seed, our Father responds! The scales are certainly tipped in our favor-Guess it brings home just how much He loves all of us...just like a parent, magnified infinitely.

Best of all-He keeps his promises. Let's get to talking with our Father, folks. Deeply and with purpose. We have a mountain to move.

This is certainly the most powerful way we can help Terri and her family and, extended, ourselves and our system of justice.

248 posted on 05/27/2004 7:31:22 AM PDT by Republic
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To: Alamo-Girl; floriduh voter; cyn; Pegita; pc93; Theodore R.; Saundra Duffy; Brad's Gramma
Thank you so much AG. Thank you, again. It hurts to know that our Father, with the tremendous crys for help he sustains, is also dealing with judges, blessed to live and practice under a constitution I believe to be inspired by our Father, who corrupt its intent. Thank you for the biblical reference, for your time and your willingness to help-I just love you.

I believe this is a mountain that prayer can move.

There is something insidious and extremely void of love worming its way thru this story, there is an almost gleeful will to cause great suffering on Terri and her familys' part, and an almost constant thread in the background of a 'let's wait this out until Terri gives up her spirit' theme creeping thru the dirty trenches of Michael and Felos and Bushnell and Greer's actions. Delays in such a sensitive case, that crys out so much for justice, are, in themselves, a cruel abuse of justice.

Something moving thru this sad tragedy that caused an immediate and direct and most probably, inspired, words to burst from Pat Anderson towards Deborah Bushnell at the end of the recent courtroom hearing. I know I was stunned when I read FV's reporting of that interaction.

I hope everyone is making a solid attempt to join in prayer at 11:00 AM everyday for this fighter and her family! I know I forget (had to put a note on my dashboard in my car....). And altho I know exact timing does not matter to our Father, I do know, that when I pray for this family, I ask our Lord Jesus the Christ to join my heart with all of you who are praying for Terri.

God has answered so many prayers, we have all experienced this right here on FR, that it makes me weep to think of it...He knows our outrage and feelings of impotence regarding this situation, however, He has also told us, thru His Son, that if we have the faith of a tiny mustard seed, and believe, we, you and I and EVERYONE, can move vitual mountains.

Let's stand on this together, for real, and for as long as it takes to understand God's will regarding this nightmare...and if ya have a bottle of mustard seed in your spice cabinent-grab one now and then- I do- and reflect on how tiny that little seed is, and how little our Father is asking of us, gee, if we can muster enough faith in our Dad in Heaven, to match the size of that tiny seed, what wonders we can help bring about! What a reflection of how much our Father loves us! Talk about unbalanced, His love overflows, and ours? IF it can fit into a mustard seed, our Father responds! The scales are certainly tipped in our favor-Guess it brings home just how much He loves all of us...just like a parent, magnified infinitely.

Best of all-He keeps his promises. Let's get to talking with our Father, folks. Deeply and with purpose. We have a mountain to move.

This is certainly the most powerful way we can help Terri and her family and, extended, ourselves and our system of justice.

249 posted on 05/27/2004 7:31:41 AM PDT by Republic
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To: Alamo-Girl

And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. Yea, truth faileth; and he [that] departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw [it], and it displeased him that [there was] no judgment.

This says it all: George W. Greer, David Demers, "Judge" Lindermann, and Douglas Baird, you are all in the book of Isaiah, and it is not a pretty picture! You can repent, but I fear you won't. You believe that you are all-wise, rather than cruel and foolish.


250 posted on 05/27/2004 7:31:48 AM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: All

Sorry for the double post-er-duh!


251 posted on 05/27/2004 7:35:03 AM PDT by Republic
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To: floriduh voter

As Anderson walked out of court, she told Bushnell, "You're going to burn in hell, lady."

I would imagine that Bushnell believes the only "hell" around is the "state of Terri's existence." She does not believe in the "hell" that Jesus defined -- far more of
ten than he mentioned heaven.


252 posted on 05/27/2004 7:46:30 AM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: Republic; Theodore R.; Alamo-Girl
Thus saith the Lord:

DEU 1:16 And I charged judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

DEU 16:18 Judges and officers shalt thou make thee in all thy gates, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, throughout thy tribes: and they shall judge the people with just judgment.

DEU 19:17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;

DEU 19:18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;

Inserted by Pegita: ... Deu 19:19 ~ then you shall do to him as he had meant to do to his brother; so you shall purge the evil from the midst of you. ~

DEU 21:2 Then thy elders and thy judges shall come forth, and they shall measure unto the cities which are round about him that is slain:

DEU 25:1 If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.

DEU 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

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These verses speak to the establishment of judges and their responsiblities to the community. ALL were to be given the benefit of righteous rule.

253 posted on 05/27/2004 7:51:58 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Republic; Theodore R.
Thank you both so much for your replies! And thank you for your kind encouragements, Republic!

Best of all-He keeps his promises. Let's get to talking with our Father, folks. Deeply and with purpose. We have a mountain to move. This is certainly the most powerful way we can help Terri and her family and, extended, ourselves and our system of justice.

I agree. We need to all be in earnest prayer, seeking God's will and mercy for Terri and her loved ones.

And we must never despair, because although man's justice can become corrupt, God will balance the scales:

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. - Galatians 6:7


254 posted on 05/27/2004 7:56:28 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Pegita
DEU 19:18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;

Judges Greer, Demer, Baird, etc., have much to ponder, I will pray that they come to full understanding and have the courage to boldly undo what they have wrought.

255 posted on 05/27/2004 7:57:56 AM PDT by Republic
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To: Pegita
Thank you oh so very much for the excellent passages! This one particularly compels me:

DEU 19:17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;

The witnesses have forgotten (or do not care) --- and worse, so have the judges --- that the court is before the LORD Himself. He knows. He is Truth.

WorldNetDaily 2/11/99 Craig McMillan "...Sir William Blackstone (1723-1780), the father of American jurisprudence, said of the importance of defending the oath:

"The belief of a future state of rewards and punishments, the entertaining just ideas of the main attributes of the Supreme Being, and a firm persuasion that He superintends and will finally compensate every action in human life (all revealed in the doctrines of our Savior, Christ), these are the grand foundations of all judicial oaths, which call God to witness the truth of those facts which perhaps may only be known to Him and the party attesting; all moral evidences, therefore, all confidence in human veracity, must be weakened by apostasy, and overthrown by total infidelity."


256 posted on 05/27/2004 8:05:00 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Sir WIlliam Blackstone...founder of American jurisprudence...that quote....the overwhelming theme that our Father is the final Judge, knowing the full truth, gives meaning to every oath.

Just an outstanding quote.

I find myself wanting to memorize this.

257 posted on 05/27/2004 8:15:59 AM PDT by Republic
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To: Alamo-Girl
"Place your hand on the Bible ~ Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?"

Have I not heard or read that this oath does not necessarily include, "so help you God?"

You are correct, Alamo-Girl ... the Lord God is very much in the judicial chamber.

258 posted on 05/27/2004 8:18:06 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Republic
I find myself wanting to memorize this.

Me, too. But I'm not good at memorizing, so I saved it on the Downside Legacy (LOL!)

259 posted on 05/27/2004 8:19:34 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Pegita
Thank you for your reply!

Here are some articles on the subject of Oaths, for anyone interested:

Legal Definition of Oath

Official Oaths Founded on Christian Belief


260 posted on 05/27/2004 8:30:03 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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