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New Nick Berg info- For anyone that is still paying attention.
Friend of a friend | 5/21/04 | abner

Posted on 05/20/2004 9:15:00 PM PDT by abner

I live fairly close to where Nick Berg used to live. I have a friend that was hired by Nick to do some work for him.

I have some new information from that friend that may or may not shed some light on Nick Berg.

I thought I would post it here for reference.

1. Nick and his father were polar opposites. My friend relates that Nick was very gung ho about the War on Terror. He also said that Nick's father was generally low key about things. In my friend's mind, Nick was very much a supporter of the United States.

2. Nick knew Arabic much better than has been reported in the news. My friend heard him speaking on the phone in Arabic on more than one occasion. He says that as far as he knew, he was not uncomfortable speaking the language.

3. My friend thinks that there is more to Nick's story than meets the eye also. He does not think that he was working for the bad guys.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
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To: abner

Maybe, just maybe Nick was just as reported a small business pro-bush, pro-war american who got caught at the wrong place at the wrong time.


41 posted on 05/20/2004 9:59:25 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: abner

Thanks for the post. Good freeping.

I happen to believe that Occum's razor is in full evidence here. It is all as it appears to be. Nick Berg was an overconfident young man (read: invincible - - bad stuff only happens to OTHER people) who went to Iraq looking for adventure. His over-confidence may have been fueled by his proficiency in the native Arabic language. He obviously got more than he ever bargained for.

There's always people like this around and they are usually young men. Berg's story reminds me of the story about Howard Dean's brother. He's the brother who was killed in Vietnam where he went "touring" during the war, apparently off on an adventure.


42 posted on 05/20/2004 10:07:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: abner

Thanks abner.


43 posted on 05/20/2004 10:13:01 PM PDT by fatima (My Granddaughter Karen is Home-WOOHOO We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
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To: Dolphy

Berg's email:

"Another thing that's tough for me is the language - in Bantu languages the accents are easier to pick up and there are more vowels. Arab is a very intricate language with very fine accents and tons of consonants. So as much as I know the right words and can understand some of them being spoken, I can't say them worth a damn to the fellow who doesn't understand English (about 95% of the people I meet)."


44 posted on 05/20/2004 10:15:26 PM PDT by projectile
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To: abner

Where and when did he learn to speak Arabic? Was it while he was in OKC...


45 posted on 05/20/2004 10:19:24 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: abner
My friend heard him speaking on the phone in Arabic on more than one occasion.

Is your friend certain that Berg was speaking Arabic? (just checking all angles here)

46 posted on 05/20/2004 10:30:17 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: abner

I think they are all in denial.

Maybe he was working for both


47 posted on 05/20/2004 10:56:00 PM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Lancey Howard

I don't believe Dean's brother ever allowed his password to be used by an Al Quaida terrorist.

Occum's razor is in full evidence here. Things are NOT what they sewem because the over ruling truth is there are no coincidences.


48 posted on 05/20/2004 10:58:47 PM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: abner

I was thinking maybe he was a CIA agent working undercover, but maybe I watch too many movies. I do remember right after 9/11 CIA and FBI were asking for people who could speak arabic. Guess we'll never know.


49 posted on 05/21/2004 12:23:18 AM PDT by fly_so_free (Never under estimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA vote a dem out of office)
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To: Cincinna
I don't believe Dean's brother ever allowed his password to be used by an Al Quaida terrorist.

THAT is a very good point.

Regards,
LH

50 posted on 05/21/2004 12:23:40 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: abner

It seems more likely the father and son were working on the same side -- whichever that was and regardless of their public stance.


51 posted on 05/21/2004 12:27:05 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: abner
I have to wonder if maybe Nick tought he could endear himself to the enemy by offering the use of his cell phone knowledge to help them overcome the risk associated with using those phones. It's been a real problem for them that any use of such phones is quickly intercepted and the info used to get a fix on their location. Nick might (and this is PURE speculation!) have felt he could worm his way into their inner circle and then use that to turn them in and collect the reward. Of course he could also have been Pollyanna-ish enough to be willing to do it for the cause you say he supported. I suspect these guys are ALWAYS looking for ways to hone their communication skills. Our ability to eaves drop on these animals by way of their cell phone/satcom traffic has got to be one of the untold victories in this war. I don't think we will fully appreciate the accomplishment until several years has passed and disclosing our ability won't endanger ongoing attempts to listen in on their conversations.
52 posted on 05/21/2004 1:59:50 AM PDT by jwpjr
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To: abner

The tin foil hatters on some of the left wing sites believe he was working as a spy for either the mossad or US interests. I don't know....the whole lap top and email flap seems beyond strange. Clearly there is much more to this story than is being reported.


53 posted on 05/21/2004 5:52:04 AM PDT by Katya
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To: Dolphy
I am too because it seems one consistent "fact" of his profile was that he was not very fluent in Arabic. In fact, I think he said that himself in one of his own e-mails that was released in the press.

Yes. Now my friend does NOT know Arabic, so that would lead me to believe that to him, he sounded fluent. Also, with all of the different dialects, maybe he knew some better than others. I still think he stuck out like a sore thumb!

54 posted on 05/21/2004 7:07:19 AM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: John Lenin

See post #18.


55 posted on 05/21/2004 5:02:39 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: abner
Yes. Now my friend does NOT know Arabic, so that would lead me to believe that to him, he sounded fluent. Also, with all of the different dialects, maybe he knew some better than others. I still think he stuck out like a sore thumb!

The question that comes to my mind is, if he was speaking arabic on the phone several times, who the heck was a Pennsyvania radio tower repairman talking to on the phone that arabic was necessary? That is more pertinant than anything, if it was arabic he was speaking.

56 posted on 05/21/2004 5:51:07 PM PDT by American_Centurion (Daisy cutters trump wiretaps everytime!)
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To: American_Centurion

I was wondering that myself.


57 posted on 05/21/2004 6:18:25 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner

I've thought all along that perhaps Nick was undercover (ie CIA) and 'let' the muslim/arab use his email address so it could be tracked later. What better way to follow up on suspected terrorists than to know what email account they might be using.


58 posted on 05/21/2004 6:42:42 PM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: Skywalk

We do not know the truth yet Skywalk, and we may never, but you sure seem to. Do you have inside info that you aren't sharing?


59 posted on 05/21/2004 6:46:51 PM PDT by ladyinred (Torture is what happened to Nick Berg!)
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To: Robert Lomax
I believe that Nick and Tim (Tim McVeigh bthat is) are sitting in some bar in Tahiti sipping fancy girl drinks

I pray to God you are right.

60 posted on 05/21/2004 6:51:58 PM PDT by ladyjane
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