Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Eight

CNN ^ | 5-17-04 | Various

[JustPiper]

Picture credit: TheCabal

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I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD SEVEN

BREAKING NEWS

Iraqi governing council leader among those killed by Baghdad car bomb, Iraqi officials say. Details soon.

Breaking News Alert BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) U.S. military colonel says four Iraqis killed, two U.S. soldiers injured, in car bomb at entrance to coalition headquarters in Baghdad.

[thecabal]

While I don't have any first-hand knowledge of this, I am fairly certain that many governmental agencies use Cisco gear as well. Even if they did not, it does not matter. The Internet backbone uses Cisco and if you take down the backbone the rest is irrelavant. IMHO, this is a serious security breach.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Now go and read this new report on the Atlanta rocket Launcher............ FReepers say there were reports of launchers in N.y. and S. Carolina, and the post is new.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1138390/posts

[nw_arizona_granny]

Now go and read this new report on the Atlanta rocket Launcher............ FReepers say there were reports of launchers in N.y. and S. Carolina, and the post is new.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1138290/posts

[nw_arizona_granny]

the second one will work, I was sneaky and back spaced to fix the address, but didn't have enough sense to say that it was a fixed address............

[nw_arizona_granny]

will try to get this one right,this is the link for the Russian missiles, it is worth going to read, they are air to ground missiles.

I wasn't smart enough to write down the towns name, but it is a major seaport and I was correct on the N.Korea and China being right there.

There are nice pictures of the Russian copters that would fire them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137627/posts

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[Caleb Ian]

BWA! Those computers aren't so smart after all!

You have our SINCERE THANKS. And I woke up Caleb long enough to tell him it was the computers :)

Indie..and Caleb :)

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[Cindy]

ON THE NET - Random Sampler:

http://www.taliyah.org

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taliyah/

http://206.14.217.112/hardtruth/

http://www.forsan.net/animation/mutafarikat/akids.jpg

http://www.sabiroon.org/

http://groups.msn.com/MOQAWAMA-4-KARBALA/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=368

http://hamasonline.org/index.php?itemid=650

[freeperfromnj]

A Bosnian woman, there's a new twist:

AUST MAN DETAINED OVER TERROR

May 19, 2004

AT least one Australian has been detained in the Kenyan capital Nairobi on suspicion of terrorism.

A spokeswoman for the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade today declined to comment on the nature of the charges but confirmed the arrest of a 43-year-old Brisbane man and another person of unknown nationality.

She told AAP the Australian High Commission was providing consular assistance.

"Kenyan authorities say they may be released in the very near future," the spokeswoman said.

Nairobi police spokesman Jaspher Ombati said a Kenyan man, a Somali man with a Australian passport and a Bosnian woman also with an Australian passport, were detained on Sunday while trying to make a booking at a hotel near the Israeli embassy.


"The police believed their movements were suspicious and this prompted officers to interview them and try and ascertain what was going on," Mr Ombati told Reuters.

"The three people are now in police custody and are currently being interviewed."

Security sources told Agence France-Presse it was feared the three could have been planning an attack on the embassy.

Nairobi's Kilimani police chief Richard Ngatia said the trio tried to book rooms at the Fairview hotel without any identifying documents.

When they failed to identify themselves to hotel staff they were reported to anti-terrorism officers from General Service Unit (GSU), a paramilitary wing of the Kenyan police, who were guarding the embassy.

The man and woman, believed to be a couple, later presented Australian passports to police, but the third person, who claimed to be a Kenyan-Somali student, failed to produce identity documents.

Terrorists have twice attacked embassies and hotels in Kenya in 1998 and 2002.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9606775%5E1702,00.html

[Quix]

HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH!

THANKS TONS, LM. GREATLY APPRECIATED.

[Quix]

Is this something we need to contact legislators about? Sounds troublesome, to me.

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Could treaty with UK target U.S. founders?

Critics say terrorism agreement would suspend constitutional rights with
no statute of limitations
Posted: May 19, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

George Washington portrait by Rembrandt PealeCritics say a new anti-terrorism treaty between the U.S. and the United Kingdom could conceivably result in Great Britain seizing the assets of dead enemies ­like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

The treaty, forwarded April 19, 2004, by President Bush to the U.S. Senate for ratification, has generated little media attention and little controversy ­ probably due to the fact that it is an agreement between coalition partners in the war on terrorism.

But some who have examined the small print see big problems with the new extradition treaty ­ saying it abrogates the constitutional rights of Americans accused of wrongdoing by Great Britain and threatens the estates of long-dead antagonists of the crown.

Drafted by Attorney General John Ashcroft, the treaty is designed for "combatting terrorism, organized crime, money laundering, and other offenses." But William Hughes, author of "Saying 'No' to the War Party," charges that under the treaty as written, the British could demand recompense from anyone in the U.S. who stood up to British law ­ living or dead.

Hughes contends the property of the descendants of the founding fathers could theoretically be seized.

"Such items and assets may be surrendered even if the extradition cannot be carried out due to the death ... of the person sought," states Article 16 of the treaty.

Another critic, Professor Francis A. Boyle, a professor of international law at the University of Illinois, claims the treaty will "eliminate the political offense exception to any offense allegedly involving violence or weapons; transfer responsibility for determining whether the extradition request is politically motivated from the courts to the executive branch; allow for extradition even if no U.S. federal law is violated; and allow for provisional arrest and detention for 60 days upon request by the UK."

Hughes states: "If all of this sounds like the Brits could wake up one morning and just arbitrarily charge an American citizen with a so-called 'extraditable offense,' on the flimsiest kind of evidence, you're right to think so. It also means that the accused, a citizen of this republic, would get no full judicial review of his extradition process by a federal judge, a federal appellant court, or the U.S. Supreme Court."

He says once the treaty is approved by the Senate and signed by the president, "an American, will be at the mercy of an alien-based foreign government" with none of the usual constitutional protections.

The treaty is currently sitting before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, chaired by Sen. Richard G. Lugar, R-Ind. Irish-American activists have expressed their concerns that the treaty might be designed to target activists working for Irish independence.

In a letter from a coalition of Irish-American organizations earlier this month, the critics wrote: "Under the new treaty, as drafted, an extradition request from the British government could be received on one day and a target, regardless of citizenship or the merits of the extradition request, could be forcibly placed on a plane and deposited with the British security forces the very next day.

These are the same security forces that presently stand accused of orchestrating collusive murders of its citizens in Northern Ireland for many years and who have successfully stonewalled calls for independent investigations of such misdeeds."

The current treaty governing extradition between the U.S. and Britain was signed in London on June 8, 1972. It was amended by the supplementary treaty signed in Washington on June 25, 1985.

''There's no big Irish issue in the (presidential) campaign, but if this treaty goes through there will be," says Boyle. According to Boyle, the proposed treaty not only does away with the concept of a political-exception clause, it also removes the possibility of judicial review in extradition cases while exposing individuals, including U.S. citizens, to the threat of extradition to the United Kingdom based on "totally unfounded allegations."


People, he told the Irish News, could be prosecuted for simply helping people involved in the situation in Northern Ireland.

Boyle has written Lugar instructing him that had the treaty been in force back in the 1770s, America's founding fathers, including Washington and Jefferson, would have been "extradited to the British Crown for prosecution of their very revolutionary activities that founded the United States of America itself."

But given that there is no statute of limitations and that asset forfeiture is a part of the treaty ­ even for dead targets ­ some have only half-jokingly suggested the estates of the founders could be endangered.


The Departments of Justice and State argue in their correspondence with Lugar that provisions of the treaty are similar to those with Spain, South Africa, Poland, France and Lithuania.


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[milkncookies]

Thanks Oorang. I'd also like to know what happened to the two "Israelis" that were arrested in Tennessee. I haven't heard anymore on that story since news they were up for deportation.

[milkncookies]

Thanks Oorang. I'd also like to know what happened to the two "Israelis" that were arrested in Tennessee. I haven't heard anymore on that story since news they were up for deportation.

[tmp02]

About the launcher in Atlanta, I guess Allah did not will it to do any destruction ;) Or maybe some one greater than Allah stopped it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

This is for all the Muslims lurking out there.

[Quix]

This link about Soros militant atheism as his source of hatred for Bush and all believers--that any believer is too stupid to be in office etc.

might be worth your read and at least your prayers.

Lord, cause Soros' wealth to be given to the righteous according to your Word that the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the righteous, in Jesus' Name.

May his wealth be quickly surrendered to the forces of those who Love you and used for your Kingdom and service to hurting people.

May he disappear from public life in disgrace and broken hopelessness if he fails to repent and own you as Savior, in Jesus' Name.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1138286/posts

[bored at work]

WHAT!?? "BYE TO ALL"!!!!@ WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT? INDIE, YOU ARE MY FAVORITE POSTER!!!! NEVER SAY GOODBYE!!!!!

[bored at work]

no offense intended to other posters. but you are one my very favorites. . . please come back. . .

[Velveeta]

Cypriot airport shut in bomb scare

From correspondents in Nicosia

May 19, 2004

PAPHOS International Airport in southwestern Cyprus was cordoned off and flights delayed for several hours today after a suspicious package, thought to be a bomb, triggered off a security alert, police said.

The busy airport, which mainly caters to tourists, was reopened after the package was discovered to be harmless, though it seemed to contain weapons parts.(snip)

(snip)He said the package contained several bullets, a device which looked like a bomb, a hand grenade lever, a small metal container with a flammable liquid inside, a small battery and an 'on-off' switch. None of the items were connected into a usable device.(snip)

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1274&storyid=1361293

[milkncookies]

Nothing really new. No new posts since the 16th. However, you might find this LINK I've bookmarked of interest.

[milkncookies]

MISSILE HITS TONY BLAIR

An amazing security breach has seen Tony Blair hit by a package containing an unknown substance in the House of Commons.

Two men have been arrested after MPs were also showered by purple powder hurled from near the public gallery.(SNIP)