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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Eight
CNN ^ | 5-17-04 | Various

Posted on 05/17/2004 12:36:39 AM PDT by JustPiper


Picture credit: TheCabal


Picture Credit:Calpernia

I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD SEVEN

BREAKING NEWS

Iraqi governing council leader among those killed by Baghdad car bomb, Iraqi officials say. Details soon.

Breaking News Alert BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) U.S. military colonel says four Iraqis killed, two U.S. soldiers injured, in car bomb at entrance to coalition headquarters in Baghdad.


(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; plethoriaofinfo; terrorthreats; threatmatrix
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To: JustPiper

Same thing again this evening at the Muslim Center down the street Piper, a huge crowd showed up around 8:00, parking lot overflowing again.

This is after the largest crowd I've ever seen there earlier this afternoon.

I don't know what's going on, but it's more than just Friday prayers, that's for sure.


1,681 posted on 05/21/2004 7:44:59 PM PDT by rickylc
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To: Calpernia
Update on pizza delivery man from Pennsylvania with bomb..This is my first attempt to do a link... Pizza Delivery Man with Bomb
1,682 posted on 05/21/2004 7:45:32 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Put down that fiddle and DO SOMETHING!")
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To: Indie

Has anyone seen any major network dedicate a show or a portion of a show to what they should be doing to prepare for a terrorist attack? Nada! When it happens, they'll all be scrambling to cover the event, but none of them wears big enough pants to try to cover what should be done NOW so that people know the threats are serious and some preparation needs to be completed by all citizens. Widespread panic after a catastrophic event seems to be more what they prefer to cover. Helping people understand the threats and prepare for them is clearly a back-burner priority except for conservative talk radio hosts who are openly discussing our vulnerability.


1,683 posted on 05/21/2004 7:46:09 PM PDT by MamaDearest (If you're voting for Kerry, your mindset is scary!)
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To: rickylc; JustPiper; Calpernia

I did a google search and found no reason why today would be special for muslims. Anybody know why they'd be showing up in droves today?


1,684 posted on 05/21/2004 7:47:42 PM PDT by knak
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

Hey, it worked. But now I see that my "update" may just be old news.


1,685 posted on 05/21/2004 7:48:15 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Put down that fiddle and DO SOMETHING!")
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To: Calpernia

In my reply to you after I posted it I read it and it sounded kind of snotty. I didn't mean for it too. Sorry. Was just curios if anyone had read that article already. Didn't mean to be short with anyone!


1,686 posted on 05/21/2004 7:53:03 PM PDT by knak
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To: JustPiper

I am on the mosque by me's website now.

I don't see any holiday events listed; but there are a lot of night classes, programs, committee meetings and it seems summer school programs are starting for camp.


1,687 posted on 05/21/2004 7:53:10 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: rickylc

Does the mosque have a website? You can see what they have scheduled from there.


1,688 posted on 05/21/2004 7:56:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

Thanks. I guess he wasn't a suicide bomber then? It obviously wasn't a bank robbery....

I'll shelf this one for now.


1,689 posted on 05/21/2004 8:01:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: knak

I just took a look. It's so hard to make out what they're talking about with those machine translations.

Whatever it is, it's never good news.


1,690 posted on 05/21/2004 8:03:17 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: knak

I didn't even take it as such. Thanks for the clarification though.


1,691 posted on 05/21/2004 8:03:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Calpernia

I'm glad. Didn't mean anything. It just came out wrong.


1,692 posted on 05/21/2004 8:05:20 PM PDT by knak
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To: Calpernia

More Clinton:

Another good article:

from the Washington Weekly:

BILL CLINTON'S ALGER HISS PROBLEM
Bombshell Report Cites Suppressed Evidence of Communist Plot

By Carl Limbacher

OYSTER BAY--Fifty years ago, a young California Congressman
became the first to take the allegations of Whittaker Chambers
seriously. Chambers had alleged that top State Department aide
Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy. Hiss's ensuing trial and conviction
on perjury charges laid bare one of the great American political
scandals of this century: The Communists had infiltrated the
highest levels of our government and were secretly working to
subvert it.

The revelations permanently tarnished Franklin Roosevelt's
legacy. To this day, many New Dealers refuse to accept the
notion that the president who had led the country through
Depression and World War could have been so easily duped by the
man FDR referred to as "Uncle Joe" Stalin. But the deals
Roosevelt cut with Stalin were followed inevitably by the descent
of an Iron Curtain across Eastern Europe. In a legendary photo
of the Yalta meeting between FDR, Stalin in Churchill, Alger Hiss
can be seen hovering in the background. In what may turn out to
be one of the great historical ironies of all time, the young
California congressman who used Whittaker Chambers to expose Hiss
was Richard Nixon, the future 37th president of the United
States. Ironic because fifty years later history may be
repeating itself for President Clinton, who, because of his own
"Alger Hiss" problem, may face the same fate Nixon ultimately
did.

Now it's clear that the taint of Communist infiltration
haunts the Clinton administration. Yes, it has thus far
weathered a year's worth of media reports on its campaign finance
scandal. And four months of Sen. Fred Thompson's investigation
into same had seemed to fall short of the mark. But it was
Thompson himself, the press often reminds us, who set the bar too
high. It had seemed as if the Tennessee Senator had over-reached
at the outset, when he charged that clear and compelling evidence
existed of a Chinese Communist plot to influence American
elections. By the end of October, Thompson cut bait, explaining
that, while he still believed his charge was accurate, the FBI
intelligence data that could have proved it necessarily remained
secret.

But just days ago, Fred Thompson was vindicated. In fact, if
anything, the story that ran on the front page of Friday's
Washington Post makes Thompson's claim seem positively
understated. The evidence uncovered by former Watergate sleuth
Bob Woodward, in a story headlined "FBI Had Overlooked Key Files
in Probe of Chinese Influence," suggests more than a mere attempt
by the Chinese to buy access. That evidence suggests that Bill
Clinton is embroiled in an espionage scandal the likes of which
haven't been seen since the days of Hiss and Chambers.

What else can one make of Woodward passages like this:

The belatedly discovered files indicate that Maria Hsia - a
Taiwanese American immigrant who for a decade has raised
money for Democratic causes - was "doing the bidding" of
Beijing as a Chinese agent, a senior official said.

As Woodward noted, Hsia has connections going back to 1988
with Clinton crony James Riady. Riady's Lippo Group has become
in recent years pretty much a wholly owned subsidiary of the
Chinese government. Maria Hsia worked closely with John Huang,
who's suspicious DNC fund- raising first raised eyebrows a year
ago. Hsia was co-chair with Huang of the April 1996 Buddhist
Temple fundraiser where $140,000 in foreign money was laundered
on its way to help with Clinton's re-election.

Speaking of Mr. Huang, another Woodward tidbit seems to put
him firmly in the Alger Hiss territory:

(FBI Director) Freeh's order turned up other previously
undisclosed leads from FBI files, including reports
considered reliable but unconfirmed that Huang, while serving
as a senior Commerce Department official in the Clinton
administration, passed a classified document to the Chinese
government.

That one classified document passed by Huang is surely the
tip of the Chinese Communist spy-berg - given the record brought
out at the Thompson hearings. While at Commerce Huang received
top secret clearance (without routine FBI background checks) and
sat in on numerous briefings covering classified material. Paula
Greene, a secretary with the Lippo connected Stephen's Investment
firm, recalled that Huang would sneak out from his office at
Commerce and go across the street to Stephens' Washington office,
where he would collect faxes and packages from his old Lippo
bosses. Ms. Greene would notify Huang whenever Lippo material
would arrive for him, but was instructed to do so in strict
secrecy. Telephone records indicate that Huang himself initiated
regular contact with Lippo throughout his Commerce Department
stint. Huang had numerous opportunities to get U.S. secrets to
the Chinese through that conduit alone. During a Sept. 13, 1995
White House meeting with James Riady, Lippo lawyer Joseph Giroir
and consigliere Bruce Lindsey, Bill Clinton personally approved
John Huang's transfer to a key DNC post.

For those who still believe, as many did for years with Alger
Hiss, that Huang and Hsia's behavior was somehow unrelated to
plans hatched in Communist capitals, Woodward's concluding
paragraph contains some bad news:

After Thompson announced two weeks ago that he was suspending
his public hearings, officials said, the FBI obtained
intelligence showing that the Ministry of State Security in
Beijing - the Chinese equivalent of the CIA - boasted it had
been successful in "thwarting" the congressional inquiry.

So much for Chinese strongman Jiang Zemin's denials of just
two weeks ago, which he offered personally while looking Clinton
right in the eye, that there was no Chinese plot. Of course,
what significance is such a denial of conspiracy - as offered
from one conspirator to another? That may be a heady charge.
But look at the evidence staring Americans foresquare in the
face.

On February 2, 1996, the BATF issued special importation
permits for 100,000 Chinese assault rifles and millions of rounds
of ammunition. The guns were unmodified and therefore illegal as
per Bill Clinton's own assault weapons ban. Then why did our
government wave them in at a time when there was no legal US
market for such weaponry? Here's a clue: On February 6, 1996,
just four days after those permits were signed, Bill Clinton
feted Chinese arms dealer Wang Jun inside the White House. Wang
had been brought to the White House by Clinton funny-money man
Charlie Trie, whose invitation had been greased by investment
banker Ernest Green's $50,000 contribution.

This incident was separate and distinct from the 4,000 AK47's
that Wang Jun's Polytechnologies had attempted to smuggle to
Oakland street gangs using Chinese government ships. In fact,
within a month of Wang's White House visit that smuggling
operation was busted; a development that scuttled the much larger
100,000 gun Polytechnologies deal. But the fact remains, not
only did Mr. Clinton play host to a Communist princeling who was
then running a massive US smuggling operation, he was apparently
willing to grant Wang special dispensation from gun control laws
that Clinton himself fought hard to pass.

Curiously, the illegal Wang Jun/Clinton administration gun
deal was reported only by Michael Hedges of Scripps Howard News.
Hedges' story ran on the front page of the March 14, 1997
Arkansas Democrat Gazette - above the fold. But apparently
neither The Washington Post nor The New York Times noticed. In
fact, this development went unreported by every national news
outlet in America.

Need more evidence that Bill Clinton was willing to put
America in harm's way for the price of his own re-election? Try
renowned New York Times columnist A. M. Rosenthal - who just last
month explored "Clinton's Nuclear Deception." Rosenthal began
thusly:

Craftily, ever so craftily, President Clinton is deceiving
the American public about a critical danger to world
security: China's international sales of materiel and
technology of nuclear warfare.....No previous President, and
not even Mr. Clinton himself until now, would take the step
required to permit Chinese nuclear shopping in America -
certifying that China was not illicitly peddling its own
nuclear goods abroad. The U.S. knew that was not true.

Rosenthal concludes:

President Clinton is crafty, but not crafty enough. He has
turned China's broken pledges into a guilt of his own -
deception about a matter of life and death, many lives and
perhaps some hideous day, many deaths.

It's hard to see how importation permits for a Chinese
government gun runner and nuclear technology for the Butchers of
Beijing are in America's interest. And the only aspect that
explains how any of this is in Bill Clinton's interest is the
Chinese campaign cash, raised by foreign agents like John Huang
and Maria Hsia, that bought him his re-election.

No wonder the Chinese CIA is happy. Somewhere, no doubt, the
recently deceased Alger Hiss is smiling. But for the rest, who
may find all this less amusing, I suggest a visit to Georgia
Congressman Bob Barr's website ( http://www.house.gov/barr ),
where support for Barr's resolution for an impeachment inquiry
can be registered via e-mail.




Published in the Nov. 17, 1997 issue of The Washington Weekly
Copyright 1997 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com)
Reposting permitted with this message intact


1,693 posted on 05/21/2004 8:06:02 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: knak

It's a message board ;)

No worries!


1,694 posted on 05/21/2004 8:06:54 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Indie; Velveeta; Honestly; All

This was on Chgo Chapter Freepers, I thought it very important:

Arab Gang May Have Existed On Southwest Side

By YVETTE PRESBERRY

A group that had called themselves the “Arabian Posse” may have been at the height of their powers on the city’s Southwest Side a few years ago, but local officials say that their impact has faded over the years.

The Arabian Posse, also known as “Tap Boys,” was known in the late 1990s as a youth gang known to spend their time near 63rd Street and Spaulding Avenue and 79th Street and Pulaski Road.

Officer Wayne Gajdinski of the Chicago Lawn (8th) District Police Department said that the group was not as big as other gangs that are predominately Hispanic or African-American, but still contributed to criminal acts like drawing grafitti.

Members of the crew were mostly Arabic, wore red and white colors, and used a four-point star to designate their identity through grafitti.

As of late, though, he said the group may have dispersed to the southwest suburbs.

Bridgeview Police Chief Charles Chigas was also familiar with the Arabian Posse’s existence a few years ago, but believed that the group may have dispersed or faded away.

The Arabian Posse is not the first gang to exist on American soil. As investigators had worked to shut down predominately-owned Arab-American companies and groups alleged to support terrorism, other groups used their criminal expertise to create mini-empires.

The Chaldean Crime Syndicate was known to run in Detroit in the mid-1980s. Its leader, Khairi Kalasho, also known as “Harry,” was reportedly running a drug empire that was linked to the infamous Medellin cartel until his death in 1989.

Another Arab gang in Chicago is the Assyrian Eagles, whose members are reportedly from Iraq, Syria and Iran, accordingh to police.

This group was not known to have special gang colors, but did ues the initals “AE” and an Eagle to represent themselves.

The National Gang Crime Research Center reportedly stated that some Arab gangs appeared after the 1991 Gulf War when tensions grew within the U.S.

However, local police say that nothing has been reported of the Arab gangs in the last few years.


Southwest News Hearald
http://swnewsherald.com/index.html

_______________________________________________________

Arab Posse Black and Gold People Five point star; initials "TAP"; "People" logo

Assyrian Eagles None People Eagle; initials "AE"
{{belly of eagle}}

http://sobs.org/chilocal/gangs/gnghome.html


1,695 posted on 05/21/2004 8:07:24 PM PDT by JustPiper
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To: rickylc

Husband saw parking all over on street, blocking traffic,
throngs of muslims, saw a guy who gave him chills a Moussaui look-alike..what city is this in?


1,696 posted on 05/21/2004 8:09:16 PM PDT by JustPiper
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To: Calpernia
ok, thanks

Idaho judge refuses to drop charges in terrorism case

BOISE, Idaho -- Any hopes defense attorneys had of short-circuiting the government's terrorism case against University of Idaho graduate student Sami Omar Al-Hussayen were dashed Friday when a federal judge said prosecutors had provided enough evidence to reasonable support the charges.

This is a newsday article. So it's just an excerpt.

1,697 posted on 05/21/2004 8:12:01 PM PDT by knak
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To: rickylc

I'm hoping we have people on the "inside" listening.


1,698 posted on 05/21/2004 8:12:35 PM PDT by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: Calpernia

I wonder if this is why?

Posted on Fri, May. 21, 2004

Shiites Rally Across Mideast Against U.S.

HUSSEIN DAKROUB

Associated Press


BEIRUT, Lebanon - Tens of thousands of Shiite Muslims demonstrated in Beirut Friday to warn the United States against attacking holy sites in Iraq. Smaller groups rallied in three other Mideast nations, with protesters in Bahrain clashing with police.

Wearing white shrouds symbolizing their readiness to die in defense of the holy cities of Najaf and Karbala in Iraq, more than 200,000 protesters marched through Beirut's suburbs. Many chanted "death to America, death to Israel."

Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah accused U.S. forces of desecrating holy shrines in Iraq, and called on Muslims to fight to the death for the two Iraqi cities. Hezbollah fought an 18-year guerrilla war that led to Israel's withdrawal from southern Lebanon in 2000.

"Let the Americans understand that those who wore shrouds today, including clerics, men, women, children and adults, did not come to show off," Nasrallah said. "We will not abandon our religious duty. Today's march is a step on the road to defending the holy sites."

Shiite Muslim communities in Lebanon, Iran and Bahrain have been outraged by continued fighting in Karbala and Najaf, which are home to shrines that are among the most sacred in Shia Islam.

In Manama, Bahrain, police fired tear gas to disperse about 5,000 demonstrators, but the angry crowd broke through the police blockade and continued its march to protest the fighting in Karbala and Najaf, shouting, "Death to America!"

"Our shrines are our lives. Leave them alone!" one banner read.

The nearly two-mile march had been approved by security authorities, but police tried to stop the demonstrators halfway through, but protesters kept on moving and turned over an empty police car and set it on fire.

Bahrain's king Sheik Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa fired his interior minister, saying the march should have been allowed to go on. A royal decree replaced Interior Minister Sheik Mohammed bin Khalifa Al-Khalifa with Gen. Rashed bin Abdallah bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa.

"What happened between the police and the protesters didn't please us," the royal statement said. It said citizens had the right to protest against "the violation of the holy cities and what happened in Iraqi prisons" - a reference to the physical and sexual abuse of Iraqi detainees.

In Tehran Iran, police shoved an advancing crowd, beating them with sticks, as about 200 protesters outside the British Embassy threw stones and firecrackers, demanding the embassy be closed and the ambassador expelled. "Down with Israel, UK, USA," read a banner.

In Amman, Jordan, around 1,000 worshippers held a one-hour sit-in in front of al-Husseini Mosque to protest Arab silence on Israel's recent incursion into the Gaza Strip that left at least 40 Palestinians dead.

The protesters carried red and green Jordanian and Palestinian flags. They shouted the battle cry of "Allah Akbar," or God is great, and "America is the head of the snake."

The U.S. military has said it is doing its best to avoid damage to the shrines in Iraq. In fighting last week, the Imam Ali mosque received four holes in its golden dome, and both sides blamed each other for the damage. The mosque is the burial place of the Prophet Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law, who is revered by Shiites.


http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/world/8727252.htm


1,699 posted on 05/21/2004 8:13:53 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: JustPiper
from the blessedquietness.com website PUKE ALERT:

These are points of witness

Most Mullahs are friendly and willing to visit.

When approaching an Imam or Mullah, show consideration and grace.

Do NOT bring up the Palestinian issue or Israel.

Be ready to answer questions about your faith and zeal for the Word of God.

If you don't know your Bible, do not wander into an Islamic mosque under the assumption that your wisdom will be irresistible.

The Mullahs of Islam are studying their Bibles in order to justify Muhammed and Islam.

1,700 posted on 05/21/2004 8:14:56 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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