Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat

Cal, I would think that if they messed with any of the Columbia operating program, yes, they could be responsible for the crash.

As I recall the "Loss of tiles" caused the ship to overheat, what if it was other things, as in the program that controlled the cooling devices (do they have them?)

I would think that the speed or re-entry could also be changed.

This is not an area that I know a lot about, but have heard Dr. Bill Wattenberg talk about his work on/with the space ship computers and know that he was involved with the one the exploded while sitting on the launch pad.

He was on the team that designed (wrote the program?) and has said that it was a dumb mistake that cost the lives of the men in the ship. A case of "Shouda known".

What I don't recall is exactly what the problem was, fumes from the computers in a closed area? maybe. That it had to do with the program, yes.

I wonder if the operating program is so damaged that they have to rewrite it from scratch and cannot send up a ship safely.

I take time to pray every time that I hear of our men going up with Russia.

Don't forget the people in California with a picture that was thought to contain a missile in it. The Gov. says it is a flaw in the film. A purple streak as I recall.

Thanks for posting the article, I had forgotten or not connected it with the crash.

1,061 posted on 05/20/2004 7:41:19 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)

To: WestCoastGal

If I lived in Oregon near this site I would be very concerned. I hope that these people receive accurate information about the safety of the disposal of these weapons.

1,062 posted on 05/20/2004 7:41:28 AM PDT by all4one ("...a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents" Sir W. Churchill)

Yes, this is the report, thank you for getting it for us.

Anyone who messes with baby food, deserves to die.

I will volunteer to help him die.

1,063 posted on 05/20/2004 7:44:50 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)

Holy crap indeed....729 people and no accurate diagnosis as of yet!!! Sounds like some third-world, rain forest mutated disease to me. But the NASA physician connection is a little disturbing....new medical discovery...ummm I for one would not like to be one of the 729 on the forefront of this discovery...

1,064 posted on 05/20/2004 7:46:36 AM PDT by all4one ("...a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents" Sir W. Churchill)

To: nw_arizona_granny

I know the tiles were made to blame. But what bothers me is there was also hacking in August 2002, a few months before Columbia took off in February 2003. If information can be downloaded....information can also be uploaded.

I have also been seeing a lot of information out on the Net about Electronic Warfare.

So this is just poking at me.

NASA Investigating Computer Data Breach

By Jay Lyman
NewsFactor Network
August 9, 2002 4:41PM

The information breach reportedly revealed detailed drawings and design data on a relaunchable space vehicle. These details are restricted for military reasons.

NASA investigators are looking into how sensitive information on next-generation launch vehicles was disclosed.
Officials would not confirm whether the space agency's computer systems had actually been penetrated, but did tell NewsFactor that the materials -- which reportedly included contractor data on a next-generation, reusable space vehicle -- were stored on a closed database.

"That would be very difficult to do," NASA spokesperson Bob Jacobs said of accessing the information. "We have multiple levels of security."

Hacked or Not?

Still, Jacobs confirmed that the information that reportedly came from a hacker did, in fact, include details of a next-generation launch vehicle.

"At this point, all we have confirmed is that the information is sensitive and is part of a closed database," Jacobs told NewsFactor. "It is not posted on the Web and it is not accessible to the public."

Jacobs said that NASA investigators were looking into how the information was exposed. While he said the agency would not comment on any material obtained illegally, he did say that the breach was not necessarily a hack.

"Although we got information from a hacker, it doesn't mean a hacker got into NASA systems to get it," Jacobs said. "People shouldn't be quick to assume hacking is how it was done, especially if it's a closed database."

Reusable Space Ship

Jacobs said the materials in question -- considered sensitive information -- centered on a second-generation launch vehicle. NASA inspector general Paul Shawcross told NewsFactor that his office is investigating the matter, but would not comment further.

Reports on the information breach indicate that it revealed detailed drawings and design data on a relaunchable space vehicle. These details are restricted for military, regulatory and competitive reasons. The documents reportedly came from government contracting companies such as Boeing , Aerojet and Pratt & Whitney.

Treason to Teens

While he called NASA a secure facility with "a very secure IT infrastructure," Jacobs said that the national space agency publishes more than four million public Web pages.

"NASA takes any intrusion into its IT infrastructure seriously, whether it's corporate espionage or a teenager with a phone modem," Jacobs said.

Jacobs said NASA's IT infrastructure -- spread across 10 field centers -- is protected by "multiple redundant systems that monitor access to all systems."

Spacious Target

NASA, like other U.S. government agencies, is a favorite target of hackers seeking to deface Internet sites or gain access to prove their skills.

For example, five teenagers were arrested in Israel this week and charged with unleashing the Goner virus, which damaged computers around the world, including some belonging to NASA.

Commenting on the rise in computer cracking and malicious attacks, such as powerful denial of service attacks that can bring down commerce-level servers, NASA computer crime investigator Stephen Nesbitt told NewsFactor, "They continue, but the methodologies for mitigating them have improved."

1,065 posted on 05/20/2004 7:52:59 AM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)

1,066 posted on 05/20/2004 7:58:27 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)

I have talked to a Chinese friend at work...he says that China has been threatening Taiwan every election for decades...

1,067 posted on 05/20/2004 8:00:00 AM PDT by tmp02

To: Calpernia; All

I have no doubt in my mind that the loss of STS-107 [Columbia] and her crew was caused only by damage sustained to the tiles and the wing by a foam strike on liftoff, and nothing else.

1,068 posted on 05/20/2004 8:00:16 AM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)

Ok. I will buy that. I don't have the background on the tech stuff anyway. I think you know more about that than I do.

1,069 posted on 05/20/2004 8:03:38 AM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)

I do not and have not ever believed in any type of psychic predictions. Always have been a realist but.....a friend of mine knows how much I'm into this threat matrix stuff and sent me an interesting link. Have you ever heard of this person and what do you think about her predictions? Scroll down to the list of 3 things she predicts will happen.

http://www.elizabethbaron.com/stcath.htm

1,070 posted on 05/20/2004 8:08:43 AM PDT by freeperfromnj

Cal,

It looks like you have the 'rest of the story' here.

I am digging deep in "I wasn't paying attention/not that interested" thoughts for what I heard about the two things we have on Mars.

as I recall when the first one landed, it wasn't working correctly and for a time it looked like a wasted trip.

Then NASA kept reloading the program, seems there was a flaw, I recall thinking to myself that it had been hacked.

As i recall they would ask it to do something and it would do something else.

They took the time to upload a computer program and got it to working again.

So yes, I can accept that hackers are responsible for the Columbia crash. The hackers would explain why the watch was on to wave off the ship, as there was a terrorist threat, it was clearly reported on the news at maybe 1 am and 2 am, then I waited to hear more and it was off the news.

With the limited years that I have left, space exploration does not excite me, they won't learn anything that will affect my remaining lifetime.

As usual, you are good at finding the 'rest of the story', we have missed you.

1,071 posted on 05/20/2004 8:09:43 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)

To: nw_arizona_granny

STRANGE EXPLOSIONS SEEN IN ARKANSAS SKIES

LINK

1,072 posted on 05/20/2004 8:20:35 AM PDT by milkncookies ("Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance.")

To: freeperfromnj

Never heard of her. I will do some searches to see if I can get more info on her after I'm done with my power point slides.

1,073 posted on 05/20/2004 8:27:56 AM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)

To: freeperfromnj

The following is my opinion RE: Madam Cleo St Catherine

1. A bombing [No, really????]

2. There will be some troops in one country that will be withdrawn because they will be needed in another country to stop a sore that has become a boil which must be lanced. So the soldiers will go there [already happened before her prediction was made; troops moved from S Korea to Iraq]

3.Evidence of military traitors [already happened]

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She dates these 5-16-2004.

Unless I'm missing something here, they have already happened. Is she betting some don't watch the news?

[I do not believe in self-appointed prognosticators. I believe we can see visions of the future *that God allows us to see* but I believe it is sporadic and can not be controlled by ourselves consciously, nor do I believe we have the power to discern whether or not what we saw really was the future or something else. Only God really knows.]

1,074 posted on 05/20/2004 8:29:18 AM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)

To: milkncookies

Try posting that link again MnC

1,075 posted on 05/20/2004 8:33:30 AM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)

To: milkncookies

Never mind. it is working now.

1,076 posted on 05/20/2004 8:34:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)

I do not believe in self-appointed prognosticators.

Neither do I. I just found it interesting -- her take on a bombing happening in a country close to ours in the next 3 months and thought of the recent threats to Canada.

1,077 posted on 05/20/2004 8:45:50 AM PDT by freeperfromnj

To: milkncookies

They have been reported in several countries, quiet a show.

1,078 posted on 05/20/2004 8:55:18 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)

The following is my opinion RE: Madam Cleo St Catherine

"madam cleo" is one of the most ingeniously depeptive liers around. . .Any fortune telling or predicting the future is a sham. Always has been and always will be.

I'm a sceptic if you cant tell. She wont be getting any of my money. . . but thats just my opinion. . .

1,079 posted on 05/20/2004 9:00:32 AM PDT by bored at work (no more mr nice guy!)

Kingman, Az had a town election, last week I think, several days ago for sure.

This morning, the news is talking about 1300 ballots that they forgot to count.

May not sound like many, but as this was the town only election, I doubt that many more than 5, 000 voted, if that
many.

I know that the new mayor has been on the radio this week, I am not in the city, so didn't pay a lot of attention to the election.

Is this what the country will deal with in November?

1,080 posted on 05/20/2004 9:01:54 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)

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