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U.S. journalist wants war to failEditors believe it would ensure 'evil' Bush ousted
Worldnet Daily ^ | May 15, 2004 | WND

Posted on 05/14/2004 11:24:22 PM PDT by LifeTrek

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A British reporter says a U.S. journalist in Baghdad told him she wants to see more Iraqis die so President Bush will be thrown out of office in November.

Toby Harnden, Middle East correspondent for the London Daily Telegraph, said he engaged in the conversation while taking a break by the pool at the Al-Hamra Hotel in the Iraqi capital.

In an opinion piece for the Spectator magazine of Britain, Harnden said at poolside he "was accosted by an American magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal credentials."

The American journalist told Harnden she had been disturbed by his argument that Iraqis were better off now than under Saddam Hussein.

Harnden said he heard from her the usual "script" from antiwar activists, "no WMD, no 'imminent threat' (though the point was to deal with Saddam before such a threat could emerge), a diversion from the hunt for bin Laden, enraging the Arab world, etc."

But the American then came to her point, Hernden said.

"Not only had she 'known' the Iraq war would fail but she considered it essential that it did so because this would ensure that the 'evil' George W. Bush would no longer be running her country.

"Her editors back on the East Coast were giggling, she said, over what a disaster Iraq had turned out to be. 'Lots of us talk about how awful it would be if this worked out.'"

"Startled by her candor," said Herndon, "I asked whether thousands more dead Iraqis would be a good thing."

The British journalist said, "She nodded and mumbled something about Bush needing to go."

He then suggest to her that by this logic another Sept. 11 attack, on about Sept. 11, would be perfect for pushing up John Kerry's poll numbers.

"Well, that's different — that would be Americans," she said, haltingly, according to Harnden. "I guess I'm a bit of an isolationist."

In his column, Harnden then commented on the "moral degeneracy of these sentiments," concluding with:

"Whatever we thought about the war before it was launched, it is imperative that the forces of Arab nationalism and Islamism that now threaten to destroy Iraq are defeated. If America fails in Iraq it will be all of us in the West, not just Bush, who will suffer. But those who would be most in peril, of course, would be the Iraqis, who deserve better than to have their country treated as an electoral playground by the American Left or Right. To wish otherwise is as sick as the grins on the faces of the Abu Ghraib torturers."


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To: LifeTrek

America is strong enough to take on the Islamic extremists. But, more and more, I fear that we won't be strong enough to withstand the Left.


181 posted on 05/15/2004 9:38:43 PM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: LifeTrek

BUMP!


182 posted on 05/15/2004 9:40:30 PM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

There are so many to choose from but would love to know "who" the writer for the magazine is.


183 posted on 05/15/2004 11:42:05 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: lavrenti; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave; Squantos; Ragtime Cowgirl; LindaSOG; SAMWolf; ALOHA RONNIE; ...
In order for a DW1 we need the military to step up the plate, take the initiative and govern the nation in the manner it sees best.

This is what the left fears most, yet it is something about which they dare not speak. With 50% of the country firmly on the side of its president, and the military presumably 99% in favor of prosecuting the war on terror to the maximal extent, they know that in terms of sheer force, they are outflanked even with the media on their side.

I believe this is the primary reason for the "torture scandal" being blown out of proportion in the media. They desperately need a vehicle for asserting civilian control. I thought of this while watching senator Carl Levin, with his foppish manner, asserting his authority over secretary Rumsfeld. Hillary Clinton also seemed to demonstrate a will to assert civilian control. And Rumsfeld clearly knew it.

184 posted on 05/16/2004 12:07:42 AM PDT by risk
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To: ladyinred

Is Sheehy in Iraq? I guess Robin Wright or Judith Miller. We should look into what infobabes are over there and then it will be easy to figure out.


185 posted on 05/16/2004 12:11:30 AM PDT by VanZant
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Very very good point! Scary good point!
DKK


186 posted on 05/16/2004 12:14:08 AM PDT by LifeTrek
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To: VanZant

Don't forget those that may have returned recently. We can't be sure when this pool party took place.
DKK


187 posted on 05/16/2004 12:18:54 AM PDT by LifeTrek
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To: LifeTrek

You're right. I don't think Sheehy would dare go to Iraq. Sheehy is a plagarizing diva. she isn't a serious reporter at all.


188 posted on 05/16/2004 12:24:18 AM PDT by VanZant
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To: liberallarry

Soulmate?


189 posted on 05/16/2004 5:50:45 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: liberallarry

Do you wonder why some of us are wary of the liberal media and their reporting?


190 posted on 05/16/2004 6:24:13 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
Do you wonder why some of us are wary of the liberal media and their reporting?

Nope. But you should be wary of ALL media and their reporting...and all descriptions of reality - including your own.

191 posted on 05/16/2004 6:54:01 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

I am that..but most of all I know the bias of both sides and which party most reporters vote for, 80% dem.

I cannot imagine wanting my nation to do poorly in a war or people in Iraq to die in order to beat a candidate. That is anti American and inhumane.


192 posted on 05/16/2004 7:12:10 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: jmstein7; All

Take action on this travesty called American journalism! Go here where jmstein7 has given you the wherewithall to do so.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1136440/posts


193 posted on 05/16/2004 7:15:42 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: risk

Hmm. You should read up on the Spanish Civil War. The radicalism of its left, the manner in which they expressed themselves and their manipulation of the military during that period reads awfully familiar to your post.

That bothers me.


194 posted on 05/16/2004 8:19:31 AM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Wow... don't miss this one, FRiends.

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

195 posted on 05/16/2004 8:25:37 AM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: Howlin; doug from upland; Mia T; ALOHA RONNIE; ConservativeMan55
Don't miss this one!
196 posted on 05/16/2004 8:26:57 AM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Now you've got me curious. Do you think that Bush needs to go?

At this stage, absolutely not.


197 posted on 05/16/2004 8:33:38 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: Skooz
Any idea what that would be in today's dollars?

No idea at all.


198 posted on 05/16/2004 8:36:07 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: Travis McGee
Statement: "Sooner or later, we're going to have to take out the trash."

Response: Yep.

199 posted on 05/16/2004 8:39:59 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: nutmeg

Yep, I saw this. Some of these people are up to their eyeballs in sedition. My hatred for Clinton can match anyone's, but I never wanted America to fail so that it would hurt him. We are different than the true believer RAT B*ST*RDS!


200 posted on 05/16/2004 9:19:01 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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