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Analysis of Video (Warning: graphic description)
Self | 5/14/04 | Self

Posted on 05/14/2004 12:09:26 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

I just forced myself to watch it again and again and have altered what I understand about the video.

There a total of FOUR places where the time skips around.

The FIRST scene time stamp begins at 13:26:24 and runs until 13:26:27.

It then skips to the SECOND scene 2:18:33 and runs to 2:18:43. The first two are statements by Berg.

It then skips to the THIRD Scene at 2:40:33 with the Islamofascist making statements until 2:44:12 when they drag him to the floor by the hair. Berg appears calm and unconcerned but alert.

Then the time stamp suddenly skips to the FOURTH scene at 13:45:47 and appears to be the same scene where the actual beheading began. At 13:45:00 Berg appears to struggle and convulse as they start to cut but this may be the terrorists jostling. The man with the knife doing the deed is wearing a BLACK hood and the man on his back is wearing a WHITE hood. This scene runs to 13:46:33 where the head is almost fully severed.

The FIFTH scene jumps to 13:47:46 where the man in the WHITE hood appears to be completing the grisly task and holds up Berg's head as a surprise.

The apparent chronological order of occurrence in scenes APPEARS to be 2nd, 3rd, FIRST, 4th, and 5th, but truthfully, the first scene may have been made the previous day.

For some reason after the third scene, they "re-enacted" the execution and for other unknown reasons, they also "re-enacted" the lifting of the severed head.

I am a country boy and have seen animals slaughtered where their carotid artery is severed seconds after they are shot in the brain. The blood squirts out in a 5 foot stream. There is no apparent heart beat during the actual beheading as no blood squirts.

He never screams, "Please!", "No!" or anything that appears to be anything other than guttural yells.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: behead; beheading; murder; nickberg; nickbergvideo; terrorists; video
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To: Blood of Tyrants
This is an important post. There are many questions I have about the video myself. Thank you for taking the time to break this down in such a manner.

Bottom line: an important posting - period.
41 posted on 05/14/2004 1:00:48 PM PDT by Codeflier (Implement Loser Pays)
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To: js1138

how could he think he was among friends with them standing over him about to kill him?

What kind of stupid idea is that?


42 posted on 05/14/2004 1:01:19 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Like maybe editing some faux pas, like dropping the knife, shouting something Un-Islamic, or something along those lines?


43 posted on 05/14/2004 1:01:56 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: LOC1

Then who the hell screamed?


44 posted on 05/14/2004 1:02:04 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims

"but I just can`t make out if anyone in the Bush administration is behind those hoods."


Agreed. Nor did I see Dan Rather, Sam Donaldson, or any other liberal-media idiots doing the cutting.

Instead, I saw the only REAL people to blame - Muslime.


45 posted on 05/14/2004 1:03:09 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: rwfromkansas
What exactly did he scream? I thought I heard something like "Why"...."My throat"... or something else in English. Very vague though.

I want to believe that Berg was not completely aware of what the next few minutes were going to hold.

46 posted on 05/14/2004 1:03:47 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: walwyn

NZ site?


47 posted on 05/14/2004 1:03:59 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: dirtboy

so you break the rules to lecture me about breaking the rules? hypocrite.


48 posted on 05/14/2004 1:07:12 PM PDT by RolandBurnam
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Why was he provided an orange US?) suit, and then had it removed?
He was not too sharp and failed to realize HE was in a trap by those whom his father admires.


49 posted on 05/14/2004 1:07:19 PM PDT by Diogenesis (We do what we are meant to do)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well I watched the russian being beheaded and i tell ya that one was horrid with blood flowing onto the ground...I wont watch the Berg video but if there is no gushing blood its my guess He was either dead or drugged..I hope he was dead already...God rest his soul and god punish his father and the evil islamist if this boy was a sacrafice in the name of the peace movement.


50 posted on 05/14/2004 1:07:25 PM PDT by DAPFE8900
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To: RolandBurnam
so you break the rules to lecture me about breaking the rules? hypocrite.

You're not even worth the trouble of another retort, so adios.

51 posted on 05/14/2004 1:08:39 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: dirtboy

go lecture someone on the rules, dirtbag, er dirtboy.


52 posted on 05/14/2004 1:09:50 PM PDT by RolandBurnam
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Bastards!!!!!!


53 posted on 05/14/2004 1:12:18 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: RolandBurnam

If you have a problem with dirtboy could you please use the mail option so we dont have to hear it? thanks.


54 posted on 05/14/2004 1:14:04 PM PDT by No Blue States (Kerry wants to be the leader of the Free World? Free for how long?" Zell Miller)
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To: rwfromkansas
What kind of stupid idea is that?

You need to keep up with the threads. I take the father literally when he says his son was killed by friends. There is lots of evidence that the Berg household was, to put it euphemistically, "progressive".

I'm not convinced Nick was killed on the part of the tape that everyone has seen. The video has been clumsily edited, shot from at least two cameras with different clocks set to different times. Some say there is lots of blood on the floor, but no blood flows when his neck is severed. The sound track is also off sync.

My interpretation: He thought he was posing for a propaganda film and didn't know he would actually die. The film of the actual killing is edited out. There is no additional blood during the beheading. He doesn't struggle because he is already dead.

Further tinfoil thoughts: he thought he was in Iraq to help them, and trusted them. They stopped trusting him when he attracted the attention of the FBI.

55 posted on 05/14/2004 1:14:10 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: Diogenesis

Are you sure of that last pic?

Someone yesterday posted that that last photo showed up in the early days of the troops' entry into Bagdad last year.

Is there an original caption for it?


56 posted on 05/14/2004 1:16:24 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: js1138
They stopped trusting him when he attracted the attention of the FBI.

Good point. AQ must've been real careful about Nick thinking he could have been tailed.

57 posted on 05/14/2004 1:16:45 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: js1138

Neck cut, then blood drained into a container. Resumed filming.


58 posted on 05/14/2004 1:17:57 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I believe your analysis is incorrect, and the timestamps are explained by two cameras and some sloppy editing, but that the events took place in real time. See http://www.truth-teller.com/000041.html for an analysis of the timestamps. Also, although the video is poor quality, I believe can see bloodstains spreading over the clothes on Berg's shoulders as he is cut. I can see wetness on the knife without any doubt, and redness appears to be pooling on the floor in a spreading puddle. If you watch closely you can see dripping from the head when it is held up. This is very gory to view or discuss, but I believe the video presents everything in real time and can be taken at face value.


59 posted on 05/14/2004 1:17:59 PM PDT by truth-teller.com (berg execution video is in real time)
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To: RolandBurnam

Knock it off.


60 posted on 05/14/2004 1:22:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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