Terror suspect captured on tape (NGsman tried to join al-Qaida before deploying to iraq)

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/173124_anderson13.html ^ | 5-13-04 | MIKE BARBER

[OXENinFLA]

FORT LEWIS -- Army Spc. Ryan Anderson talked with his lawyer and wrote on a notepad yesterday, but didn't look up at the screen showing an undercover video of his meeting near the Space Needle in February with two federal investigators posing as al-Qaida terrorist recruiters.

In the 58-minute recording made inside a vehicle, with about a minute censored for security reasons, Anderson, 26, of Lynnwood is shown volunteering ideas on how to defeat U.S. military vehicles and kill soldiers, sharing military documents, making plans to desert and join al-Qaida, and his reasons for it all.

"While I love my homeland, I believe the leaders have taken this horrible road. I have no belief in what the American Army has asked me to do. They have taken me from my family and sent me to die," Anderson said on the video, which was shown in a courtroom at this Army base yesterday.

"I joined the National Guard because they said I won't go over and fight -- I will fight at home," he said.

But Anderson, a convert to Islam, said he would not fight overseas against "brother" Muslims. "I am very upset about that," he said. "I love my country, but I fear my government."

[MadJack]

Sorry, amigo. Should have read further. Agree.

[Dawgreg]

Get a rope.........:(

[skeeter]

"While I love my homeland, I believe the leaders have taken this horrible road.

Where have I heard this very same statement recently?

Oh yes, from nearly every one of my democratic friends.

[Truth Barer]

Don't think they don't know we are watching them. I saw two burka bit**** putting groceries in a trunk, looking around. The fear in their eyes said it all. I gave them a dirty look just to put a exclamation point on their fear.

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You sound like a white racist from the early 1900s...

Should the Japanese look at you as a terrorist since the US dropped the bomb on them and killed 100s of thousands?

Should the Chinese look at you as a scumbag since Europeans took over part of China and filled them up with heroin?

Should the African Americans look at you as a low life maggot since the US brought millions of Africans to the US and used them as beast of burden to help build the US?
(Over 16 million killed in the middle passage alone.)

Should the Native American look at you as a warmonger with a lying tongue just because the Europeans took their land and killed most of them?

I mean I could go on and on about things Europeans have done to Original peoples of the earth but you get the point, I hope. Calling those people out of their names and giving them hateful glares just because you want them to be even more paranoid about how you view them is unjust and shows the hypocrisy of yourself and those who talk and act like you in America.

[Frank_Discussion]

This feller needs a hemp necktie...

[Frank_Discussion]

You are most likely right that we need to check our predjudices at the door, but I will make one observation:

I'm seeing a LOT more burkhas in my town, and I think it's a subtle challenge. I suspect that the muslim-american men in this country are telling their wives to get more fundamentalist in dress to stick it in our faces. I've always noticed headscarves, and more especially burkhas, even before 9/11. It was a rarity. Now it's a dressing popping up more and more.

[EQAndyBuzz]

"I love my country, but ..."

Rule number 1 in life... Any thing you say after the word "but" makes everything said before the word irrelevant.

Basically he is saying, "I don't love my country and here is why."

[eyespysomething]

Welcome to FR Truth Barer. You have interesting first posts, including possibly blaming the CIA for the Berg beheading. Hmmm...

[olde north church]

I mean I could go on and on about things Europeans have done to Original peoples of the earth but you get the point, I hope.
Absolutely ridiculous! If it weren't for the European "warmongers" which you so easily slander, 90% of the world would still be performing rectal hygiene with their own hands.
Peoples? As far as "peoples" go it's just another liberal code-word such as belief system or cultural diversity.
Maybe it's time for the "peoples" of the world to assimmilate into the 21st century.

[GrandMoM]

....yes I heard that about the father, but, wouldn't he try to cover the fact of his sons anti-war beliefs to save his sons image????? If the truth was he was an activist against the war, there would be much less sympathy for him. People would feel he got what he deserved.

[mtbopfuyn]

As the first witness, Shannen Rossmiller, a city judge in Conrad, Mont., described yesterday how she linked the name and e-mail address of Amir Abdul Rashid on the Web site to Anderson. Under questioning and cross-examination, Rossmiller said she is a member of 7/Seas.net, a group of seven amateur "counterintelligence" Web-surfing hobbyists tracking terrorist activity and providing information to the government.

She just put a big bull's eye on herself by going public.

[campfollower]

Thank you for this thread Oxen...I'm forwarding pertinent info to every active duty military officer and NCO I know.

[MEG33]

I wouldn't... what happened to Berg was unjustified and horrific.

[mtbopfuyn]

Be careful how you condemn a man for his beliefs....

But his high school friends say he was Christian so when did this new enlightenment to Muslim start? Something else, what's with all these video tapes? Once again I'm out of fashion not filming myself 24/7.

[GrandMoM]

....trust me, I feel the same as you do, no one deserves that. I just don't think we are getting all the right info!

....looking at my own family, I realize that children are victims of their enviorment. My dad was a strong Democrap and a bigot, I (one of five children)am the only one that is not, but that change (Democrap) didn't come till I was in my thirtys.

[MEG33]

I am loathe to accuse without proof.

[marty60]

I was never a racist and still am not. Did i mention the color of their skin, NOOOOOOOO, idiot. They have declared war on the United States. And if you think Native Americans ( tribal worshipers) are exempt, your pills aren't working. It is people with your mental insufficiencies that would sit around singing campfire songs while the long knives cut your throat. If you think for one minute that even in America, if told to, these women would strap bombs to their bodies and walk into a large store and yell some profane call to God, killing hundreds, you are hopelessly lost.

Racist are people like you that think anyone white/christian/republican/american should be destroyed. Your problem is that it's just not that group standing up anymore, most have figured out who the enemy is and it's not AMERICA.

[11Bush]

I wouldn't care if he threw pork chops at them.

[marty60]

Peoples? As far as "peoples" go it's just another liberal code-word such as belief system or cultural diversity. Maybe it's time for the "peoples" of the world to assimmilate into the 21st century.

Amen to that. it is always so obvious when a psuedo intellectual pops up. I noticed he blamed everyone in all of the world since Adam and Eve for all problems. he better get a grip and face the reality of today.

[marty60]

Makes you wonder when one will detonate next to you doesn't it. Israel knows all to well. If stupid hasn't figured it out yet. It is the message being sent to us. THE WAR IS HERE NOW.