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As a Muslim, i strongly condemn the beheading of Nick Berg
Cyrus ^ | 5/12/04 | Cyrus

Posted on 05/12/2004 12:53:03 PM PDT by Cyrus the Great

As an American [applied for citizenship here from Iran since 1999], and a Muslim i would like to strongly condemn the brutal beheading of a fellow American in the hands of Barbarians.

I also, condemn Islamic terrorism across the world and join millions of others in Iran and i'm sure other places across the middle east in condemning these horrible acts.

I moved here in 2000, i was a part of the student uprisings in 1999 in Iran. The very thing that the US is fighting right now in the middle east, are what students in Iran are fighting.

There is no difference between their fight and ours, nor the fight across the middle east between the modernized - moderate form of islam and the radical form.

Unfortunately, moderates have been unwilling to take arms or act aggressively against radical islam and when we have we've been condemned for human rights abuses.

That's all.. after reading some of the posts on here i just wanted to say i'm Muslim and i condemn these acts.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freeper; iran; iranian; radicalislam; savages; whywefight
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To: Cyrus the Great
After the recent beheading of Eric Berg, I hated all muslims. However, your post has proven me wrong. Thanks
341 posted on 05/13/2004 3:29:22 AM PDT by SealSeven
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To: Cyrus the Great
Read my tagline..
342 posted on 05/13/2004 3:40:52 AM PDT by oceanperch (Let GO and Let GOD....tag line chill)
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To: DLfromthedesert
U know I even felt sick,hurt and sad yesterday.


343 posted on 05/13/2004 3:43:06 AM PDT by oceanperch (Let GO and Let GOD....tag line chill)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
BUMP
344 posted on 05/13/2004 3:44:33 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Personality can open doors, but only character can keep them open. --Elmer G. Letterman)
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To: oceanperch
I felt human. Nothing divine. THat violence made me feel human.
345 posted on 05/13/2004 3:49:18 AM PDT by oceanperch (Let GO and Let GOD....tag line chill)
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To: Cyrus the Great
I applaud your stance on evil.

How does a "moderate" Muslim reconcile his faith with the evidence that Mohamed, despite his visions, performed evil acts in the name of Islam? Do you also condemn those acts of evil?
346 posted on 05/13/2004 3:57:01 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Old Professer
Mollasses.
347 posted on 05/13/2004 3:57:17 AM PDT by oceanperch (Let GO and Let GOD....tag line chill)
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To: Centurion2000
Jihad is often called the sixth pillar of Islam.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22sixth+pillar+of+Islam%22
348 posted on 05/13/2004 4:37:39 AM PDT by dennisw (Exposing John Kerry--> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth---> http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Centurion2000
According to Kenneth R. Timmerman's book, "Preachers of Hate: Islam and the War on America," and his Washington Times article "Truth from the mouths of terrorists" [4] (published June 19, 2003), the sixth pillar of Islam is violent jihad. In Timmerman's words, "Think of it: Murder has become the sixth pillar of Islam, according to the terrorists. Where are the Muslim leaders to denounce this?"

The phrase has also been used by orientalists, and some Muslims, although the meanings plainly can differ widely.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:CzEh6CQnIgEJ:www.wordiq.com/definition/Sixth_pillar_of_Islam+%22sixth+pillar+of+Islam%22++jihad&hl=en

349 posted on 05/13/2004 4:40:53 AM PDT by dennisw (Exposing John Kerry--> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth---> http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: wtc911
I think you understand the muslim poster's meaning by "I'll meet you in the parking lot". In a war between America and islam he chooses islam. Take it for what it is.

The majority of American Muslims are not affiliated with a mosque and many fled to the US in order to live a normal life (Iranians particularly). What I am concerned about is that if push comes to pull, most American Muslims, even non-religious ones, will side with their fellow Muslims in a showdown between the US and a Muslim country. I am not even criticizing them -- they are sticking with those they consider their own kind. Infidels are not their kind.

350 posted on 05/13/2004 4:52:26 AM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: dennisw
It's like the Mafia. You can't resign or leave unless it's feet first.

Or the Roach Motel. "You can check in, but can't check out!"

351 posted on 05/13/2004 4:56:21 AM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: Cyrus the Great
I'd like to believe you. However, your holy book says it is okay to lie to non-muslims, especially if it is to further the goal of jihad. Given that your holy book encourages lying, we must, unfortunately, but necessarily, take what you say with a ton of salt. Words now ring hollow. Actions tell a clearer story. When Muslims such as yourself support your words with concrete actions, then we will start to believe you. Sorry, but we've read your book, too, and we know what it says, and what its adherents take to heart.
352 posted on 05/13/2004 5:17:36 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: PLK
Uh, that happened about 400 years ago?

Human nature has not changed in those 400 years. We're all capable of that kind of savagery if we rationalize it enough.

You want a more modern example? Witness the behavior of the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS in Poland, the Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia.

353 posted on 05/13/2004 5:40:13 AM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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To: wtc911
Yep, let's all look to a 1600s Central European conflict to predict what will happen in America in the 21st Century.

Have human beings changed that much in 400 years?

How about reviewing the conduct of the Germany military in Russia, 1941-1944?

354 posted on 05/13/2004 5:44:30 AM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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To: Cyrus the Great
Any man or women who respects my individual liberties, particularly those regarding freedom of speech and religion, and is willing to defend them will always have my respect, if not my friendship.

Prayers for success in Iran and the the WOT.
355 posted on 05/13/2004 5:47:18 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: oceanperch
Me too. My heart was broken, but when I read some of what people were saying, I could also see the faces of people I know that are also innocent, who were put into the category of these monsters simply because of their religion, and in my heart I know that's wrong.
356 posted on 05/13/2004 6:01:54 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (I was elected in AZ as an alt delegate to the Convention. I'M GOING TO NY)
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To: Happy2BMe; Cyrus the Great
Thank you, Cyrus the Great !!! Good to hear. Yay !!

Thanks for the ping, Happy !


357 posted on 05/13/2004 6:46:42 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Cyrus the Great
i just wanted to say i'm Muslim and i condemn these acts.

Thank you. I know many average Americans need to see this and realize that a few radicals do not speak for the majority. Again, thank you for speaking up.

358 posted on 05/13/2004 7:02:56 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: weegee
enjoyed your comments..again, like you, I don't want to enter into a lenghty discussion of assimilation now, though it might be a fun subject for a separate thread....I raised the question from two points..first, the radicals in are midst more than likely come from isolated, segregated, old-world style enclaves...There are neighborhoods in NYC where you cannot find a storefront in English...and as a kid in the 50's learning in what was then called "social Studies" about immigration, the "melting pot" and "assimiliation"..it's remarkable how these concepts have vanished completely..
359 posted on 05/13/2004 7:03:02 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: Slings and Arrows; BOBWADE; Mrs Zip
Thanks S&A for the profile page comment. I wish all FReepers wpould check it out.

Again, I would like to thank Cryus for this post.

360 posted on 05/13/2004 7:09:17 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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