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Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]
NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 05/07/2004 11:02:41 PM PDT by saquin

CUMBERLAND, Md., May 7 — Ivan Frederick was distraught. His son, an Army reservist turned prison guard in Iraq, was under investigation earlier this year for mistreating prisoners, and photographs of the abuse were beginning to circulate among soldiers and military investigators.

So the father went to his brother-in-law, William Lawson, who was afraid that reservists like his nephew would end up taking the fall for what he considered command lapses, Mr. Lawson recounted in an interview on Friday. He knew whom to turn to: David Hackworth, a retired colonel and a muckraker who was always willing to take on the military establishment. Mr. Lawson sent an e-mail message in March to Mr. Hackworth's Web site and got a call back from an associate there in minutes, he said.

That e-mail message would put Mr. Lawson in touch with the CBS News program "60 Minutes II" and help set in motion events that led to the public disclosure of the graphic photographs and an international crisis for the Bush administration.

It is still not entirely clear who leaked the photos and how they got into the hands of a "60 Minutes II" producer. What is clear, however, is that the furor over the photos is unlikely to dissipate any time soon.

And it may only get worse.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld disclosed Friday that there were "many more photos" and videos of abuse that have not yet become public. And he acknowledged in Senate testimony that the military might have mishandled the affair by not alerting members of Congress and the public to the growing seriousness of the military's investigation into the abuses before the images became public on "60 Minutes II."

"I wish I had been able to convey to them the gravity of this before we saw it in the media," Mr. Rumsfeld said.

The irony, Mr. Lawson said, is that the public spectacle might have been avoided if the military and the federal government had been responsive to his claims that his nephew was simply following orders. Mr. Lawson said he sent letters to 17 members of Congress about the case earlier this year, with virtually no response, and that he ultimately contacted Mr. Hackworth's Web site out of frustration, leading him to cooperate with a consultant for "60 Minutes II."

"The Army had the opportunity for this not to come out, not to be on 60 Minutes," he said. "But the Army decided to prosecute those six G.I.'s because they thought me and my family were a bunch of poor, dirt people who could not do anything about it. But unfortunately, that was not the case."

Many of the incriminating photographs appear to have been taken on a digital camera by a soldier in the 372nd Military Police Company who is now facing a court-martial. From there, they appear to have circulated among military personnel in Iraq via e-mail and computer disks, and some may have found their way to family members in the United States.

But there are still numerous unresolved questions about the photographs. One is why they were taken. Some officials suggest that soldiers wanted the photographs as souvenirs, but some relatives said they believed that the photographs were going to be shown to other prisoners to pressure their cooperation.

Then there is the question of how the photographs became public.

Lt. Gen. Lance Smith, deputy commander of forces in the region, testifying Friday before Congress, said he was still unclear how that happened. "It was a surprise that it got out," General Smith said.

Military officials were aware of two disks with photographs on them that were part of continuing investigations, one in Iraq and another in Washington, he said.

"That was the limit of the pictures, and we thought we had them all," General Smith said.

Producers at "60 Minutes II" are not saying exactly how they got the photographs. But Jeff Fager, the executive producer, said, "We heard about someone who was outraged about it and thought that the public should know about it."

Digital cameras have become so ubiquitous in the military that many relatives of personnel in the 372nd and other units in Iraq said they routinely received photographs by e-mail. But the photographs were usually tourist-type photographs of smiling sons and daughters, relatives said.

Officials said that the photographs showing psychological or physical abuse numbered in the hundreds, perhaps more than 1,000, with Mr. Rumsfeld hinting Friday that more may come out.

Among some prison personnel in Iraq, the photographs were apparently an open secret. "Some soldiers in Iraq had them — I'm hearing that soldiers were showing them to everybody," Mr. Lawson said. He said he did not have the original photos and did not turn them over to anyone.

The photographs have now turned soldiers like Mr. Lawson's nephew, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick, and Pfc. Lynndie R. England into graphic symbols of military abuse. But for Mr. Lawson, they are evidence of a complete breakdown in training and authority in the Iraqi prison system.

He shared his frustration in his March 23 e-mail message to Mr. Hackworth's Web site, writing: "We have contacted the Red Cross, Congress both parties, Bill O'Reilly and many others. Nobody wants to touch this."

Less than five weeks later, images of his nephew — interviewed on "60 Minutes II" with Mr. Lawson's help — would be shown around the world. Far from untouchable, the story would become unavoidable.


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To: swilhelm73
Well this is a NYT article and that shocks the heck out of me.
41 posted on 05/07/2004 11:19:33 PM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: FITZ
but some relatives said they believed that the photographs were going to be shown to other prisoners to pressure their cooperation.

This is what the families are saying: that they were "ordered/forced" to take these pictures to get the prisoners to talk.

42 posted on 05/07/2004 11:19:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: saquin
I was just following orders.

Where have we heard that before?

43 posted on 05/07/2004 11:20:34 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Texasforever
Either the rotten will be exposed or the next national crisis will refocus everyone
44 posted on 05/07/2004 11:20:45 PM PDT by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Texasforever
Why does it shock you?
45 posted on 05/07/2004 11:20:59 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Hack's in the middle of this stink-bomb? Why am I not surprised?

The father of one of the perps is pulling the old " I WAS JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS",for his son and doesn't want publicity,so he makes certain that there's wall to wall publicity? HUNH?

46 posted on 05/07/2004 11:21:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: McGavin999
David O'Hackworth is always bloviating about how he lives his life for the lowly grunts, the front line guys, and how he's their great defender. But this one act has made their mission that much more difficult, their lives that much more in danger, how many more will now die as a result?


47 posted on 05/07/2004 11:21:58 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: saquin
I think Frederick is the likely leaker, although there could be numerous families that have pics.

In one of the original articles on this whole thing, the media spoke with HQ 372nd MP in Cresaptown, Md...and the person in was asked to comment about Frederick...he said,"I cant say the things I want to about him so I wont comment..." or something to that affect.

Looks like Frederick's family may be the grudge bearer, I hope they realize, if it is them, that they have increased the dange of our troops being tortured.
48 posted on 05/07/2004 11:22:03 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: BykrBayb
If I hear her family say that ONE MORE TIME, I'll shove a copy of 'Judgement at Nuremberg' in their faces.
49 posted on 05/07/2004 11:22:36 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Howlin
Probably any good defense lawyer could come up with that line, but then again, it is starting to sound a bit coordinated. Almost like the 9/11 widows appearing on various TV shows the same morning using the exact same soundbite phrases.
50 posted on 05/07/2004 11:23:47 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Texasforever
That surprises me as well. And now that I think of it, I hadn't seen Hack on TV in many, many moons. But I just saw him on something in the last two weeks. (I don't know what he said, because he gets the instant mute button from me.)
51 posted on 05/07/2004 11:23:57 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yeah, he's going to be responsible for the death and injury of thousands. Not only that, but he has endangered this country more than anyone since Benedict Arnold.
52 posted on 05/07/2004 11:24:02 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: saquin
Exactly! And he claimed that he wasn't someone to be trifled with? Well, he brought all kinds of HELL down upon his family;I hope he's satisfied now.
53 posted on 05/07/2004 11:24:11 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: saquin
Mr. Lawson said he sent letters to 17 members of Congress about the case earlier this year

Which 17 members knew and why were they so lax in finding out the truth?
54 posted on 05/07/2004 11:24:38 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I agree!!!!!!
This shoudn't have happened but the release of the photos is as bad if worse
55 posted on 05/07/2004 11:25:13 PM PDT by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: texasflower
Well from what I have read the Brigade command structure was really bad. However, this entire thing just reeks of orchestration. Here is a piece of the puzzle I would like answered. Just who were the prisoners in the pictures and what were they being held for? I cannot for a moment believe that if they were actual combatants they wouold have been so docile as they appear to be. If they were just run of the mill street crooks then Military intelligence would have had zero interest in them.
56 posted on 05/07/2004 11:25:16 PM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: McGavin999
Yep, that's the name that keeps running through my head.

How about Benedict O'Hackworth?
57 posted on 05/07/2004 11:25:36 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: saquin
amazing how much these "dirt people" are willing to hurt the country, isn't it?
58 posted on 05/07/2004 11:25:56 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: rbmillerjr
I hope they realize, if it is them, that they have increased the danger of our troops being tortured.

I hope Fredericks, Hackworth, CBS, etc. can live with themselves if we see a video soon of poor Keith Maupin (anyone remember him) being mistreated or threatened.

59 posted on 05/07/2004 11:26:32 PM PDT by saquin
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping.

Is this joker so hard up for publicity that he has to do this? Fox doesn't have Hackworth on as an expert commentator--he was the very voice of doom--so this is his way of getting back out there? What an ass!

I am sorely tempted to say something bad about him here....grrrrrrrr!

60 posted on 05/07/2004 11:27:33 PM PDT by Watery Tart (Al Franken: “Clinton’s military did pretty well in Iraq, huh?” April 27, 2003)
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