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Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]
NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 05/07/2004 11:02:41 PM PDT by saquin

CUMBERLAND, Md., May 7 — Ivan Frederick was distraught. His son, an Army reservist turned prison guard in Iraq, was under investigation earlier this year for mistreating prisoners, and photographs of the abuse were beginning to circulate among soldiers and military investigators.

So the father went to his brother-in-law, William Lawson, who was afraid that reservists like his nephew would end up taking the fall for what he considered command lapses, Mr. Lawson recounted in an interview on Friday. He knew whom to turn to: David Hackworth, a retired colonel and a muckraker who was always willing to take on the military establishment. Mr. Lawson sent an e-mail message in March to Mr. Hackworth's Web site and got a call back from an associate there in minutes, he said.

That e-mail message would put Mr. Lawson in touch with the CBS News program "60 Minutes II" and help set in motion events that led to the public disclosure of the graphic photographs and an international crisis for the Bush administration.

It is still not entirely clear who leaked the photos and how they got into the hands of a "60 Minutes II" producer. What is clear, however, is that the furor over the photos is unlikely to dissipate any time soon.

And it may only get worse.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld disclosed Friday that there were "many more photos" and videos of abuse that have not yet become public. And he acknowledged in Senate testimony that the military might have mishandled the affair by not alerting members of Congress and the public to the growing seriousness of the military's investigation into the abuses before the images became public on "60 Minutes II."

"I wish I had been able to convey to them the gravity of this before we saw it in the media," Mr. Rumsfeld said.

The irony, Mr. Lawson said, is that the public spectacle might have been avoided if the military and the federal government had been responsive to his claims that his nephew was simply following orders. Mr. Lawson said he sent letters to 17 members of Congress about the case earlier this year, with virtually no response, and that he ultimately contacted Mr. Hackworth's Web site out of frustration, leading him to cooperate with a consultant for "60 Minutes II."

"The Army had the opportunity for this not to come out, not to be on 60 Minutes," he said. "But the Army decided to prosecute those six G.I.'s because they thought me and my family were a bunch of poor, dirt people who could not do anything about it. But unfortunately, that was not the case."

Many of the incriminating photographs appear to have been taken on a digital camera by a soldier in the 372nd Military Police Company who is now facing a court-martial. From there, they appear to have circulated among military personnel in Iraq via e-mail and computer disks, and some may have found their way to family members in the United States.

But there are still numerous unresolved questions about the photographs. One is why they were taken. Some officials suggest that soldiers wanted the photographs as souvenirs, but some relatives said they believed that the photographs were going to be shown to other prisoners to pressure their cooperation.

Then there is the question of how the photographs became public.

Lt. Gen. Lance Smith, deputy commander of forces in the region, testifying Friday before Congress, said he was still unclear how that happened. "It was a surprise that it got out," General Smith said.

Military officials were aware of two disks with photographs on them that were part of continuing investigations, one in Iraq and another in Washington, he said.

"That was the limit of the pictures, and we thought we had them all," General Smith said.

Producers at "60 Minutes II" are not saying exactly how they got the photographs. But Jeff Fager, the executive producer, said, "We heard about someone who was outraged about it and thought that the public should know about it."

Digital cameras have become so ubiquitous in the military that many relatives of personnel in the 372nd and other units in Iraq said they routinely received photographs by e-mail. But the photographs were usually tourist-type photographs of smiling sons and daughters, relatives said.

Officials said that the photographs showing psychological or physical abuse numbered in the hundreds, perhaps more than 1,000, with Mr. Rumsfeld hinting Friday that more may come out.

Among some prison personnel in Iraq, the photographs were apparently an open secret. "Some soldiers in Iraq had them — I'm hearing that soldiers were showing them to everybody," Mr. Lawson said. He said he did not have the original photos and did not turn them over to anyone.

The photographs have now turned soldiers like Mr. Lawson's nephew, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick, and Pfc. Lynndie R. England into graphic symbols of military abuse. But for Mr. Lawson, they are evidence of a complete breakdown in training and authority in the Iraqi prison system.

He shared his frustration in his March 23 e-mail message to Mr. Hackworth's Web site, writing: "We have contacted the Red Cross, Congress both parties, Bill O'Reilly and many others. Nobody wants to touch this."

Less than five weeks later, images of his nephew — interviewed on "60 Minutes II" with Mr. Lawson's help — would be shown around the world. Far from untouchable, the story would become unavoidable.


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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Mr. Rose's office. May I help you?"

Tell him Hack's on the line....BOOK ME!!!"

21 posted on 05/07/2004 11:13:43 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: CWOJackson
So Hackworth will be this war's John Kerry?
22 posted on 05/07/2004 11:13:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: saquin
In comments section of thread

"..according to an abridged transcript made available to me, “The investigation started after SPC Darby . . . got a CD from CPL Graner. . . . He came across pictures of naked detainees.” Bobeck said that Darby had “initially put an anonymous letter under our door, then he later came forward and gave a sworn statement. He felt very bad about it and thought it was very wrong.”.."

23 posted on 05/07/2004 11:14:14 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: saquin
But the photographs were usually tourist-type photographs of smiling sons and daughters, relatives said.

And the abuse photographs are different because?

24 posted on 05/07/2004 11:14:48 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: dasboot
Homosexuals sure have been doing a lot of damage to the war effort this year...
25 posted on 05/07/2004 11:14:52 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: CWOJackson
How in the hell can these active duty people be allowed to give interviews?
26 posted on 05/07/2004 11:14:59 PM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: saquin
I expected articles like this would start appearing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131364/posts?page=1916#1916

Geez, the Leftist media is so predictable.
27 posted on 05/07/2004 11:15:03 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Hackworth once killed an admiral with his vicious "exposes."

Now he may have created a crisis that loses a war.
28 posted on 05/07/2004 11:15:11 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: Texasforever; CWOJackson
This could be a violation of the Geneva Convention.
29 posted on 05/07/2004 11:15:18 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Texasforever
Mr. Lawson said he sent letters to 17 members of Congress about the case earlier this year, with virtually no response

I think I saw you on the "Hillary will regret this day" thread; is this how Hillary knew?

30 posted on 05/07/2004 11:16:26 PM PDT by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Howlin
It seems to me he's been vying for it, for a long time.
31 posted on 05/07/2004 11:16:28 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: CWOJackson
I have known two types of ex soldiers. One who lets his hair hang down yet lets everyone know who he is and the other one, stays groomed and focused and never lets on how he served his country.
32 posted on 05/07/2004 11:16:32 PM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: CWOJackson
"Why am I not surprised."

You took the words right out of my mouth. This sounds so right I wonder why folks didn't figure this immediately.
33 posted on 05/07/2004 11:16:34 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: Diddle E. Squat
To clarify, post 16 was directed at the blowhard Hackworth, not you personally.

I figured that, but thanks for clarifying. :-)

34 posted on 05/07/2004 11:17:06 PM PDT by saquin
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To: MEG33
Some officials suggest that soldiers wanted the photographs as souvenirs, but some relatives said they believed that the photographs were going to be shown to other prisoners to pressure their cooperation.

Yes it is interesting --- two valid explanations on why the pictures might have been taken --- and of course the media isn't going to hold back on showing them.

35 posted on 05/07/2004 11:17:20 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Spotsy
Good guess but I don't know. This is really stinking.
36 posted on 05/07/2004 11:17:21 PM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: saquin
And the jerk just sealed his nephews fate. He's one of the most hated Americans on the planet and if anyone in the military gets their hands on him, he's a dead man. I wouldn't want to be Hackworth either. Hack just betrayed his country and every single member of the military. What a total creep.
37 posted on 05/07/2004 11:17:51 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Texasforever
You know, this is really ironic.

The dad tries to **** the military command structure and instead his little boy and his friends over there are having the entire world see their faces and witness their disgusting crimes.

All day everyday, they are put out on display and discused in the media as the disgusting, vile little creeps they are.

They are now marked for life as deviants and sadists.

I like it.
38 posted on 05/07/2004 11:18:09 PM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: saquin
Interesting story in contrast...when Novak leaked that Joe Wilson had been chosen by his wife to go sip tea in Niger the press only cared about how the story was leaked.

Now there is only a slight interest in what parties may have leaked this info, and for what specific reason...
39 posted on 05/07/2004 11:18:21 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: Howlin
OK, this needs to get out. The military men and women need to know what Hackworth did to them and the country.
40 posted on 05/07/2004 11:18:56 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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