[abner]

CLINTON: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

-Snip-

The atrocities that have been depicted in photographs were very graphically, verbally, described in the Taguba report. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to read those descriptions and have one's stomach just turn in disgust.

The focus on the pictures being released is, with all due respect, missing the point. The report was well known, and apparently discussed on numerous occasions. And obviously, the release of the pictures to the entire world was devastating.

But the underlying conduct, and the failure of the command, both at the site and further up the chain, to act with the appropriate quick response, is really at the heart of what the most serious problems we face here today are.

-snip-

Rummy answers:

RUMSFELD: Well, Senator, first let me say, with respect to the question that Senator Reed raised, I can't conceive of anyone looking at the pictures and suggesting that anyone could have recommended, condoned, permitted, encouraged, subtly, directly, in any way, that those things take place.

Second, the decision that was made by the president of the United States that you referred to was announced. And in the announcement it was said that the Al Qaida in Guantanamo that are captured in the world, mostly in Afghanistan, would be treated consistent with the Geneva Convention. That is a fact.

You say the report was well known. I don't know how you know that. All I know is when it made the public, when somebody took a secret document out of prosecutorial channels and released it to the press, I do not believe it was yet anywhere in the Pentagon. Certainly, I had not been given it or seen it.

I quite agree with you. When you read the report, you do get an impression, as you suggested, that there is something much worse than what was in the press release, for example, in January or the discussion in March by the Central Command.

RUMSFELD: But that was not something that had been moved past the Central Command, to my knowledge. It may have been somewhere in the Department of Defense, but certainly I had not received a copy. It was still in those channels.

WARNER: Thank you very much, Senator.

[abner]

Ping!

[Reactionary]

"You say the report was well known. I don't know how you know that. All I know is when it made the public, when somebody took a secret document out of prosecutorial channels and released it to the press, I do not believe it was yet anywhere in the Pentagon."

Well...

[LurkerNoMore!]

nice job, Teri.

[potlatch]

Ping!

[A Citizen Reporter]

I have to tell you, that when I was listening to the hearing and she said this phrase:

"The focus on the pictures being released is, with all due respect, missing the point."

That's what made me stand up and take notice. She is complicit in the picture release.

[Mo1]

guess my theory is this: If she isn't behind the leak, she knows exactly who is.

If we can find out who that Staffer was that was in this prison and we might find out if she is

[Anti-Bubba182]

This is the story that broke the report first:

TORTURE AT ABU GHRAIB

[Angelwood]

Thanks for the post, abner. Hillary's moles and leftovers in the Pentagon and elsewhere are hard at work to leak information to her and other democrats in order to undermine the presidency, our troops and, in effect, aid the terrorists who are at war with America. Some DARE call it TREASON!

[cavtrooper21]

Thread to follow.
..not suprising that something this sleazy would have the Clintoon's greasy fingerprints on it.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

What did Senator Clinton know, when did she know it, and HOW did she know it?

[Hildy]

Over at DU they're arguing about why Gore lost!!!!!! Now they're blaming it on Leiberman!!!! Almost four years and they're still debating it. Unbelievable.

[abner]

Ping!

[The Mayor]

Thankyou for the post abner.

I wasn't able to hear any of this all day, just excerpts on local news.

This is very interesting, and I love Rummys response.
The dems will do anything to undermine Prez Bush, the Military and this Country.
The battle between Good and Evil, no question in my mind.
kennedy and hitlery should go for a swim.

[MadMoo]

Bump!

[zip]

ping

[ikka]

If it was not in the Pentagon, it was with the DOJ, right?

[prairiebreeze]

ping

[hole_n_one]

From the Myers/Dayton exchange......

MYERS: Thank you, sir. 

Thank you, Senator Dayton. 

This was not to suppress anything. What I asked CBS News to do was to delay the release of the pictures , given the current situation in Iraq, which was as bad as it had been since major combat ended, because I thought it bring direct harm to our troops; it would kill our troops. 

We talked about it, and I said, "I know this report will eventually come out. But this -- if you can delay it for some period of time -- it would be helpful."

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Because of Dayton's continual reference to the pictures as the report, even the Chairman JCOS eventually lost the distinction between the "pictures" and the "report".

I bring this up because, unlike Kerry and the medals vs. ribbons farce, I'm of the belief that the "report" and the "pictures", when referenced in the context as to their public disclosure, are two seperate and distinct pieces of information and not interchangeable.

[TomGuy]

As soon as she made her remark and Rumsfeld responded, the look on her face was, 'ut oh - I screwed up'.

I posted a comment about while that while she was still questioning earlier today.

She had more information, apparently, about the photos, etc., than even the Pentagon/Rumsfeld had. That does raise suspicions.

[Petronski]

I don't know how you know that.

When Rumsfeld said this, my ears perked up. It was a kind of verbal bookmark for the savvy listener.

I think he knows darn well how she knows that, and wanted to call attention to the moment. Mission accomplished, Mr. Secretary.