To: nickcarraway
Now can she rest in peace and join her heavenly Father rather living in this earthly hell?
5 posted on
05/06/2004 11:13:31 AM PDT by
Wheee The People
(Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang. Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang!)
To: Wheee The People
Are you a Manichee?
To: Wheee The People
Now can she rest in peace and join her heavenly Father rather living in this earthly hell? Withdraw YOUR food, and you could follow that ridiculous and sinful path...
To: Wheee The People
troll-be-gone ==>Whee The People
Connect the Dots ... for Terri
- "When Bucky the Labrador collapsed, she[Terri] performed mouth-to-nose resuscitation on him. He died in her arms."
- She (Terri) once ran into the house crying because she had run over a rabbit. No one could console her. Her father went outside, came back, and said she was mistaken, there was no dead rabbit in the road. When she finally calmed down and left the room, her dad said, "Man, she nailed it."
- "She [Terri] went down my throat about this joke [about Karen Ann Quinlan], that it was inappropriate," [her best friend, Diane] Meyer said. She remembers Terri wondering [the summer before meeting Michael] how the doctors and lawyers possibly could know what Quinlan was feeling or what she would want. "Where there's life," Meyer recalls Schiavo saying, "there's hope."
- In an affidavit... [Michael's girlfriend for six months in 1992, Cyndi] Shook quoted Michael Schiavo as saying: "How the hell do I know what to do with her. We never talked about this when we were married. We were young and this was never talked about."
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Michael shows the 1992 malpractice jury how responsive Terri is to him. |
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In late 1992, a jury agrees that Terri should live about 41 additional years, and it awards Michael a Million dollar lawsuit for Terri's rehabilitation. He soon afterwards, stops all physical therapy and rehabilitation, and issues a do-not-resucitate order. - In 1996, Michael asked Jodi Centonze to marry him and she said YES. Michael testified under oath that Jodi is his fiancee. They now have two children together. State law prohibits guardians for the disabled who have significant conflicts of interest.
- In 1998, Michael suddenly recalled that Terri 'wished to die' rather than live with an inconspicuous feeding tube under her clothing. Many disabled people live nearly normal lives with the same kind of feeding tube.
- In 1999, it became legal for the first time to kill Florida's disabled by removing their feeding tubes. Any 'verbal contract' Michael and Terri might have had before 1990 to kill each other this way, would have been murder at that time and thus illegal.
- In 2003, Michael and his lawyer nearly convinced the world that Terri is "PVS" - which by Florida's definition is:
- The absence of voluntary action or cognitive behavior of any kind.
- An inability to communicate or interact purposefully with the environment.
- In 2004, The Pope rules that the disabled MUST be fed, and life-sustaining feeding tubes are NOT medical 'treatment'. Terri, a devout Catholic who spent K-12 in Catholic Schools would CERTAINLY honor the Pope's ruling, and choose to live.
- Question: Do these 2002 pics look like a Permanent Vegetative State?
From "
Terri Big Eyes" video available at
www.terrisfight.org
Terri starts out apparently asleep. A doctor wakes her to start his tests.
Doctor: Terri. Open your eyes up...
Terri: (Startled at hearing her name. She starts moving her mouth and fluttering her eyes, like a person who is just waking up)
Doctor: Open your eyes, Terri open your eyes
Terri: (slowly at first, Terri struggles to open her eyes, then turns toward the doctor, and opens her eyes a normal amount)
Doctor: There you go, good.
Terri: (then, either to show off(?) or wanting to perform well, she leans further forward toward the doctor, looks straight at him and opens her eyes as WIDE AS SHE CAN. Note the WRINKLES ACROSS HER FOREHEAD caused by her also RAISING HER EYEBROWS as high as possible )
Doctor: [now obviously impressed] GOOD!! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB YOUNG LADY! Good Job.
- Mar 29, 2004. Michael makes up a ruse to deny ANY Schindlers from visiting Terri, who has recently developed a bedsore, lost two teeth for unexplained reasons, had two life-threatening vomiting sessions, and only rarely gets bathed. Judge Greer that same week gave the Schindler's a Catch-22: Either PROVE Michael ordered the nursing home to NOT share Terri's medical information, or else no court action or investigation will occur. The nursing home then continues to blackout information to Terri's parents, while Michael forces them to stay physically off-site.
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Recent interviews/excerpts:
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"Hannity and Colmes" - Tuesday 10-14-03 --> (Terri's father) Bob Schindler: "MONEY and FOUL PLAY"
"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 10-24-03 --> Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: "Potassium imbalance UNLIKELY - HEALTHY heart - NECK TRAUMA"
"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" Sunday 10-26-03 --> author Christopher Darden and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: "You have eternity to be dead; You only have a limited amount of time to live"
"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (father) Bob Schindler and (neurologist) Dr. William Hammesfahr: "She absolutely CAN be rehabilitated -clearly NEVER had heart attack -Emergency room: damaged neck"
"On the Record with Greta" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson: "BIG FIGHT -attempted STRANGULATION"
"On the Record with Greta" - Tuesday 10-28-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson and (brother) Bobby Schindler: "failing marriage -DIVORCE imminent -Potassium explained":
"Hardball with Chris Matthews" - Wednesday 10-29-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney for ACLJ) Jay Sekulow and (anti-Terri attorney) Joe Tacopina: "Matthews: I think the human issue here is... her eyes flickering... I think she's ALIVE":
"Larry King Live" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (husband) Michael Schiavo[barf alert]: THEY get money from the right wing ACTIVISTS - "Removing somebody's feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die" - [later] King: Would you take one[lie detector test]? - No (Commentary) almost entirely pro-husband -->
"O'Reilly Factor" - Wednesday 11-05-03 --> (former "Vegetative State" patient) Kate Adamson: Being starved to death is EXTREMELY painful "It was SHEER torture!" - took her THREE MONTHS of ACUTE REHAB to snap out
Her website says: We stand behind Terri Schindler!
"The Abrams Report" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney) Pat Anderson and (pro-death attorney) George Felos: "Felos: Michael is a MODEL husband" - Anderson:"Terri got NO REHAB after $award$":
"On the Record with Greta" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and followed by a panel discussion:
"Connor: INDEPENDENTLY investigate the circumstances and allegations...
Gloria Alred: Perhaps the PARENTS SHOULD care for her
"Radio Interview" --> (Michael Schiavo's so-called 1st girlfriend after Terri's so-called 'collapse')
MS: "[Terri] upsets my WHOLE LIFE with this, and this is ALL her fault."
GIRLFRIEND: "he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!"
"CBS News Sunday Morning" - Sunday 11-09-03 -->
( Lead-off feature story for this Sunday morning news magazine )
"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 11-17-03 --> (Terri's parents) Mary and Bob Schindler:
( "ACQUIRED CEREBRAL PALSY" ... "she's been literally in PRISON for FOUR years" )
"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 01-09-04 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and (husband's attorney) George Felos:
Connor: "We'll GO to the Florida Supreme Court, and if the Governor isn't afforded an opportunity to try this case before a JURY, we'll try to go to the U.S. Supreme Court".
"On the Record with Greta" - Wednesday 01-21-04 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and (husband's attorney) George Felos:
Connor: "...mister Schiavo and mister Felos are TERRIFIED of trying this case before a JURY. ... NO reasonable jury ... would EVER accept this proposition.".
"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 02-13-04 --> (Gov.Bush's attorney) Nicole Kerr, (husband's attorney) George Felos, and (WFLA reporter) Sharon Parker:
Kerr: "We think this is a TREMENDOUS victory for Terri Schiavo... this case basically says that we're ENTITLED to take depositions, we're entitled to discovery...".
To: Wheee The People
> rather living in this earthly hell?
The same heavenly father forbids killing her, y'know.
12 posted on
05/06/2004 11:18:04 AM PDT by
T'wit
("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
To: Wheee The People
I hope you are not married. If you are married, I hope your spouse sees your post. PErsonally, I would hold in contempt anyone who would starve a dog to death, much less a human being. You should pray to God to have mercy on your soul.
28 posted on
05/06/2004 11:46:07 AM PDT by
gemoftheocean
(geez, this is all straight-forward and logical to me....)
To: Wheee The People
So why are you still here?
39 posted on
05/06/2004 11:57:38 AM PDT by
kenth
To: Wheee The People
I'm sure there are a lot of people we can say that of--so who do you suggest should first of all determine the quality of life and then end it? And if you say the person whose life is being ended, well how do you determine that if the person can not speak for themselves? What is enough to determine the person would have continued or ended their lives? A flip comment after an emotional movie viewed 15(?) years ago coupled with the demands of a husband who is involved quite intimately with another woman seems to be the test in Terri's case. If that were you, would you want your life ended based on a flip comment made after an emotional event or movie and made by a spouse whose committments lie elsewhere presently?
46 posted on
05/06/2004 12:20:37 PM PDT by
cupcakes
To: Wheee The People
What a SICK comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So for all of us that find this earth unpleasant, we should just go around wiping people out??? Get a life!!!!
50 posted on
05/06/2004 12:33:26 PM PDT by
pollywog
(Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
To: Wheee The People
"Now can she rest in peace and join her heavenly Father rather living in this earthly hell?"
Yes, Terri and millions upon millions of others like her. We will be among those millions, you and I, and anyone who is not deemed worthy of this "living hell" we call life. You and I will be escorted to our heavenly reward by the angels of hunger and thirst, drifting in and out of a morphine fog, begging for surcease of the torment.
Our fate is tied to Terri's fate, for she is the test case for sanitized starvation of undesirables. No matter how young, how beautiful, or how strong, you and I shall someday be added the list of undesirables.
Choose Terri's fate carefully, for someday it shall be your own...
To: Wheee The People
Now can she rest in peace and join her heavenly Father rather living in this earthly hell?
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Not so fast. It ain't over 'til it's over. You should know better than to start that crap on this thread anyway.
76 posted on
05/06/2004 2:55:13 PM PDT by
gooleyman
((You'll NEVER agree with ANYONE about EVERYTHING. You'll NEVER agree with a DemocRAT about ANYTHING))
To: Wheee The People; All
In November, Judge Baird said IN COURT that the law was 'presumptively unconstitutional'. That is even though constitutionality is PRESUMED and the buden of proof is on the person(s) challenging the law.
Later, he denied a request from the Governor that he be served in the same county the law was written, even though the Governor enjoys 'home plate' privilege on such things.
Later, he blocked the parents from intervening, even though they have a demonstratable legal interest in the outcome of the case.
Later, he denied the Governor a jury trial.
Then, he denied the Governor discovery.
Then, he denied the Governor access to depositioning witnesses.
Then, he accepted a request to issue a summary judgment.
All of these things (save 1, maybe) were sent right back to him from the 2nd DCA, citing that he did not follow the rule of law.
That being said, Baird was transferred to criminal court some months ago, but of all the cases in his work load, he decided to hang on to this particular one and not pass it along to his predecessor.
There might very well be a heavenly father, but when did that job title go to a gin-blossom wearing good old boy in a black robe?
89 posted on
05/06/2004 3:50:18 PM PDT by
phenn
(http://www.terrisfight.org)
To: Wheee The People
Now can she rest in peace and join her heavenly Father rather living in this earthly hell?
Yeah, because brain-damaged people are better off dead, right?
I'll hold my tongue and stop here.
To: Wheee The People; Agnes Heep; agrace; Aliska; amdgmary; A-plus; atruelady; attagirl; Babalu; ...
"Now can she rest in peace and join her heavenly Father rather living in this earthly hell?" Hey Whee-whee, How many more people would you like to send to "join their heavenly Father?"
Jeffrey Dahmer sent quite a few, and so did the unibomber...
204 posted on
05/06/2004 8:55:14 PM PDT by
editor-surveyor
( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
To: Wheee The People
If I define 'earthly hell' as being totally clueless about the meaning of life, you could then have no objections to being immediately dispatched to the great beyond.
209 posted on
05/06/2004 9:07:03 PM PDT by
Petronski
(John Kerry's shabby lies make me very cranky.)
To: Wheee The People
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