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Jupiter's Moon Io, Continues To Puzzle Scientific Researchers
Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | 5/04/2004 | Creation-Evolution Headlines

Posted on 05/04/2004 8:21:26 PM PDT by bondserv

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To: RadioAstronomer
Oops, forgot to add you to the ping list of my previous two posts. Consider yourself pung.
41 posted on 05/04/2004 11:52:13 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
Very dumb thread, but today "it's the only game in town."
PING. [This list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and some other science topics like cosmology. Long-time list members get all pings, but can request evo-only status. New additions will be evo-only, but can request all pings. FReepmail me to be added or dropped. Specify all pings or you'll get evo-pings only.]
42 posted on 05/05/2004 3:18:00 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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To: bondserv
Heathens! The Church of Last Thursdayism is the only true origin!
43 posted on 05/05/2004 3:48:41 AM PDT by Saturnalia (My name is Matt Foley and I live in a VAN down by the RIVER.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Io isn't mentioned in Genesis, so it doesn't exist.

When did Darwin predict a dust layer on the moon? ;)
44 posted on 05/05/2004 4:30:39 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: doug from upland
Everything I learned about Io I learned from here:


45 posted on 05/05/2004 4:55:48 AM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: Amish with an attitude
Do you also have a theory as to why he would bother to waste his time "Evolving" everything into existance instead of just creating the product in its final form to begin with?

Do you have a theory as to why God bothered to create anything at all? I don't presume to know the will of God, or pretend to understand His motives.

46 posted on 05/05/2004 5:42:53 AM PDT by SedVictaCatoni
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To: PatrickHenry
Very dumb thread, but today "it's the only game in town."

Very "dumb" comment - course, you're the first evo troll to show up.

Oh hold on - I see John H.K. preceded you.

47 posted on 05/05/2004 5:57:51 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: Amish with an attitude
Talkorigins "Transitionals":

FAQ or Fiction?

More on the lack of transitionals and the fossil record:

Link

Link

48 posted on 05/05/2004 6:04:48 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: Amish with an attitude
Where are the piles of non viable specie to specie mutations in the fossil record?. Nowhere to be found.

You are correct. This is one of many major problems with evolution. The way to solve it is to redefine "transitional form." Sweden was the first to discover this postmodern scientific method. They discovered that by removing the illegal status of many criminal activities, the crime rate dropped. Amazing what a little redefinition can do!

49 posted on 05/05/2004 6:07:06 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Ichneumon
"People don't just pull those numbers out of hats."

Yes they do just pull numbers out of the air with no factual basis. People lie all of the time to support something they really want to fly. Just like some people have read the quran with all its text about killing all unbelievers or enslaving them and witnessed first hand the actions of islamofascist terrorists and still come to the conclusion that islam is the "religion of peace".

You are truly blinded if you can honestly believe people don't just make up facts to support their particular idea. I consider evolution impossible to have happened, in spite of all of the so-called evidence. First of all, why would evolution just suddenly begin, then stop never to happen again? Lets face it, evolution, if it ever happened, is not happening now. Why aren't there species alive today with both human and ape characteristics, or any other species that show characteristics of evolving from one species to another? This idea of conditions just happened to be right for it then but not now is a giant leap from here to there. I think it takes far greater faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe an Almighty God created all life on Earth.
50 posted on 05/05/2004 6:15:26 AM PDT by ChevyZ28 (Most of us would rather be ruined by praise, than saved by criticism.)
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To: Amish with an attitude
"Evolving everything into existance instead of just creating the product in its final form to begin with?"

That would be magic, not science. God has plenty of time on his hands being that's he's the Alpha and the Omega, why rush things? Just because our society is in a hurry to do everything doesn't mean he is.
51 posted on 05/05/2004 6:22:50 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: ChevyZ28
Yes they do just pull numbers out of the air with no factual basis. People lie all of the time to support something they really want to fly.

Indeed.

INTEGRITY AND MISCONDUCT IN RESEARCH: REPORT OF THE COMMISSION ON RESEARCH INTEGRITY

52 posted on 05/05/2004 6:26:06 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
SCIENTIFIC MISCONDUCT: AN ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY
53 posted on 05/05/2004 6:28:02 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: John H K
just because I'm curious. I believe the following:

- the universe was created approx 6k years ago
- it was created with the appearance of age

Does that make me a young earth creationists or whatever the label is? Just checking as I don't follow these threads very closely.
54 posted on 05/05/2004 6:30:12 AM PDT by Frapster (Goofball extraordinaire.)
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To: FreedomCalls
KEWL.. I think, I'll use it as a background...the moon is getting quite stale/crumbly (like cheese :)
55 posted on 05/05/2004 6:36:34 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: RussianConservative
If God is almighty then He can make evolution...

SHHHHH!...Don't say that...their house of cards will fall, is wobbly as it is...the ALMIGHT has more urgent things/activities to work on...than to pay Attn. to 3 y.o. whining about... :)

56 posted on 05/05/2004 6:46:44 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: general_re
Well, everything I learned about Io, I learned from heeeer:

;^)

57 posted on 05/05/2004 6:49:07 AM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: Amish with an attitude
Do you also have a theory as to why he would bother to waste his time "Evolving" everything into existance instead of just creating the product in its final form to begin with?

Billions of years is like a blink of the eye for God. Anyway, who are you to question God's motivations?

58 posted on 05/05/2004 6:53:55 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Frapster
I agree

In Genesis, God says He created all things in 6 days.

In Numbers 23:19 it says 'God is not a man, that He should lie...'

59 posted on 05/05/2004 6:56:47 AM PDT by gracex7 (The LORD is not slack concerning His promise....but is longsuffering to us-ward. 2 Peter 3:9)
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To: Amish with an attitude
Your theory certainly could explain the lack of transitional forms in the fossil record, proof that God doesn't make mistakes.

Your "lack" of transitional forms always turns into a lawyering trick to explain away and dismiss what IS there. The gimmick turns out to be that no matter what IS there, you have a way of saying it's not a transitional form. There's no stopping you from playing that game, but what evolution predicts (forms intermediate between previously known forms) turns up with great regularity and has been doing so since Darwing published in 1859. The situation is thus the very opposite of what you invite people to believe.

60 posted on 05/05/2004 6:59:41 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Ein prosit! Ein prosit, Gemuetlichkeit!)
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