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Too much skin showing at school?
Chicago Daily Herald ^ | April 28, 2004

Posted on 04/30/2004 11:00:07 AM PDT by presidio9

Malena Schroeder is fed up.

She's fed up with high school students wearing visible thong underwear, blue jeans that droop low on the hips or skimpy blouses that show - in her opinion - too much skin.

A Mundelein High School District 120 board member who also regularly volunteers at the school, Schroeder doesn't consider herself prudish. But she's tired of walking through the school hallways and seeing provocatively dressed kids who look like they popped out of a racy music video.

"If I'm an adult and I'm distracted, I can only imagine what effect it might have on teenagers in that environment," she said.

During a board meeting earlier this week, Schroeder called for administrators to more stringently enforce the facility's dress code or adopt stricter rules that could include uniforms. She received support from other trustees and from audience members who applauded her request.

The proposal also was backed by Superintendent Stan Fields, who promised a committee will study the issue.

"There's something to be said for preparing students for life after high school and (teaching) appropriate grooming habits and dress habits," Fields said. "It's pretty difficult to get a job when your rear end is hanging out."

Mundelein isn't the only suburban high school wrestling with dress-code concerns. Wauconda High School and the other schools in Wauconda Unit District 118 tightened clothing policies for the 2003-04 term, banning belly-baring tops, low-rise pants and other revealing garments.

Similar rules have been adopted in recent years at high schools in Buffalo Grove, Naperville, St. Charles and other towns.

Public-school dress codes, including those requiring students wear uniforms, are legal under Illinois and federal laws. Although courts have ruled garments with political slogans are protected by the First Amendment, educators can restrict the size or style of student clothing.

"You have the right to free expression. You probably don't have the right to show off your belly ring," said Ed Yohnka, spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) of Illinois.

Mundelein High updated its dress code in 2002. Among the restrictions is a rule requiring clothes cover all skin and underwear between the armpit and mid-thigh.

Violators can be asked to change into more appropriate clothes or wear a baggy Mundelein High T-shirt over offending garments, school spokeswoman Kelley Happ said. On "rare occasions," she said, some are sent home.

Schroeder, who has two teenagers enrolled at Mundelein, believes those rules aren't properly enforced. Too many times she's seen students with pants that don't cover their underwear or whose shirts reveal skin at the midriff.

"It's become the norm," she said. "There's a time and a place for that kind of dress. It shouldn't be school attire."

If parents can't control what their kids wear, Schroeder said, school administrators or the board must step in and make sure teens are dressed appropriately. If that means stronger enforcement of the existing dress code or the adoption of uniforms, she said, so be it.

"It's our responsibility to make sure that our kids can focus and have some decorum," Schroeder said.

Mundelein High junior Stephanie Urban thinks officials who want to crack down on dress-code abuses are overreacting. Students dress better than they used to, she said.

Jessy Wisniewski, another junior, likes to wear shorts or skirts to school and said she has been sent home for sporting clothes considered too risque.

"I'm 16. I can legally drive. But people are going to tell me (what's) appropriate for school?" she said. "I mean, I'm not coming to school dressed in a bikini."

Students who oppose uniforms may have a surprising ally: board President Thomas M.P. Hannigan, who thinks better enforcement of the existing code is the answer.

"My high school had a uniform. My grammar school had a uniform. And I don't think I learned any better because of that," Hannigan said. "I think we have a reasonable dress code. Before the school board jumps in and makes changes, let's see how an enforced dress code works."

Dress: Board president doesn't back uniforms


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To: RosieCotton
LOVE most of what Eddie Bauer makes. Good quality, flattering, durable clothing.

I bought a great jacket from LL Bean this winter. Very similar to Eddie Bauer. I have some Eddie Bauer stuff- great for doing stuff outdoors.

141 posted on 04/30/2004 1:42:31 PM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Inspectorette
When at a Denny's I took my daughter to the bathroom. While in there I saw a teenage girl who was changing out of cute jeans and a sweatshirt into something that looked... Well, you can imagine. I actually felt sad for the parents she was obviously duping (although, we've probably all done that as teenagers. it's just sad when you get to the age of the tables being turned). I noticed her belly and realized it was as big as mine. The difference being (1)I am a 30 year old who has had four children and (2) I don't wear low-rise jeans.
142 posted on 04/30/2004 1:43:22 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Agnes Heep; cyborg
Three of the most useless things in the world: boobs on a dyke, balls on a fag, and the opinion of a teenager.

Hey ......I have no problem with boobs on a dyke (as long as she is pretty).

(Hiding face in shame)

;-D

143 posted on 04/30/2004 2:02:48 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
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To: Skooz
Thinking about baseball always worked faster than anything I tried

LOL!

144 posted on 04/30/2004 2:05:14 PM PDT by m87339 (If you could see what a drag it is to be you)
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To: Inspectorette
My God, if someone provided a satisfactory answer to that question I'd be a much saner man!
145 posted on 04/30/2004 2:07:38 PM PDT by ECM
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To: spetznaz
LOL!!
146 posted on 04/30/2004 2:28:03 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Modernman
Baby Got Back - Sir Mixalot.
147 posted on 04/30/2004 2:43:07 PM PDT by cryptical
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To: presidio9
Hmmm. Just one picture of an attractively dressed highschool girl. I don't think there's any cause for alarm.
148 posted on 04/30/2004 3:19:35 PM PDT by fso301
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To: SF Republican
yeah ... me too...and i still drool when i think about 'em!!!
149 posted on 04/30/2004 3:25:43 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: Annie03
Last weekend I took my 6yo girl to see the Clifford movie (which happened to be playing at the mall).

I seldom go to the mall.

Thankfully our movie houses are separate.

Last time I went to the mall. I thought that the red light district had moved indoors.

150 posted on 04/30/2004 3:38:24 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: SuziQ; kezekiel; Annie03
The clothes that are offered for teenage girls these days are awlful. We refused to buy most of them for our daughter, and she refused to wear anything from LL Bean or Land's End ( because WE wore clothes from them, making them taboo in teenage girl land), so we bought her a sewing machine.

She learned to sew so well that she just accepted an internship making costumes for a family theater company, and is planning to go to fashion design school in a few years. And I made her promise to design a line of DECENT and MODEST young girls clothing first thing.

151 posted on 04/30/2004 3:39:50 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Modernman; GRRRRR; fso301; TheBigB; Fierce Allegiance

There are schoolgirl uniforms, and then there are schoolgirl uniforms...

152 posted on 04/30/2004 3:39:53 PM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: don-o
"Last time I went to the mall. I thought that the red light district had moved indoors."

LOL- sooooo true. I never go there to shop, just happened it was the only local theater showing the movie. That just cracked me up because it is so accurate....
153 posted on 04/30/2004 3:56:07 PM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Red Boots
"She learned to sew so well that she just accepted an internship making costumes for a family theater company, and is planning to go to fashion design school in a few years. And I made her promise to design a line of DECENT and MODEST young girls clothing first thing."

That is just fabulous. Good for you for putting your foot down, and good for you daughter's stunning accomplishment!


154 posted on 04/30/2004 3:59:51 PM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Skooz
Thanks Skooz, I do my best to enjoy every minute. I know that "suddenly", she will be a teenager. I'm girding my loins because she is already a drama queen - I can only imagine how it will be with the addition of hormones-lol. But right now she wants to be like mommy, and I'm wallowing in it while I can!
155 posted on 04/30/2004 4:35:45 PM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: All
Being a student at a high school (and rural, too!), I can, unfortunately, confirm these allegations. Being your typical teenage male, it's not ALL bad ;) - but still, it's been taken way too far.

Blame the liberals for destroying this country's ethics and morality. Blame Hollywood for peddling smut and glamourizing sex. Blame Hollywood again for promoting anorexia. It's sad, really...

156 posted on 04/30/2004 4:41:41 PM PDT by K1avg (What wold Savage do?)
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To: presidio9
MmMMMmMmmmmmmmmMmmmmmmmm.....Britney.
157 posted on 04/30/2004 4:45:00 PM PDT by TheBigB ("Any moment now, unspeakable horror! Trust me!" -Tom Servo)
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To: Skooz
No.

What is insane, are today's standards.
158 posted on 04/30/2004 4:59:06 PM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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To: presidio9
"I'm 16. I can legally drive. But people are going to tell me (what's) appropriate for school?"

Anyone who posts in Free Republic and doesn't see the pathetically extreme disconnect from reality in this statement, should stop posting.

Parenthetically, this might be the best argument for reconsidering allowing 16-year-olds to drive.

159 posted on 04/30/2004 4:59:29 PM PDT by Publius6961 (.)
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To: Red Boots
She learned to sew so well that she just accepted an internship making costumes for a family theater company, and is planning to go to fashion design school

Good for her. Our daughter is homeschooled, so doesn't have the pressure from other girls to conform. But even when she WAS in school, she thought all that 'lastest fashion' stuff was stupid. Needless to say, she didn't have a lot of friends.

160 posted on 04/30/2004 5:09:08 PM PDT by SuziQ
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