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[Aliska]

Too bad the 4 million busses of protestors whose lives were snuffed out in the name of convenience can't be there.

I swear, if Mel Gibson wants to build on his legacy, he ought to make a movie about those who were terminated and how, had they been allowed to be born, they would have affected life as we know it, for good and for ill.

[goodnesswins]

"After all, those of us who remember when birth control was illegal and when 10,000 American women a year died from illegal abortions..."

Ahem.....how OLD is Ellen Goodman.....I think I'm around her age, and I DO NOT remember birth control being ILLEGAL...

[MHGinTN]

It is impossible to read further when one sees such a gross lie repeated so confidently and with such arrogance: After all, those of us who remember when birth control was illegal and when 10,000 American women a year died from illegal abortions ... of course, the lying lieberal leftists like this 'journalist' will never be called to prove their lie with statistical facts (which of course do not exist!). ellen is a lying liberal ghoul, that's all.

[Lijahsbubbe]

But today is not just a march. It's pass-the-baton day

Keep dreamin' Ellen.

Our young daughter marches with her young friends every year against abortions.

[Lijahsbubbe]

We know that the pro-choice movement needs to speak to and activate a generation that doesn't remember life before Roe

They certainly can't speak to millions who won't know life after Roe.

[Luircin]

So she expects the next generation to be Generation Suicide? That's basically what a pro-abortionist born after 1973 is. I find it hard to believe that anyone could REALLY be in favor of a procedure that could have legally ended his/her life.

[F.J. Mitchell]

10,000 women died each year from illegal abortions?

Assuming this is true: Does anyone have a figure for the number of women who die from legal abortions each year? We never hear that figure.
We also know that approximately one million developing American citizens die that way each year since Roe vs Wade.

How many women die fron some sort of complication of normal child birth each year?

These figures are essential for an unbiased comparison.

We all know that child birth is a relatively risky business, even today. There is not one man on this earth, worthy of calling himself a man, who doesn't become alarmingly aware as the pregnancy progresses within his beloved soul mate,of just how much the results of their loving intimacy has placed upon her. We are humbled by just what she is willing to endure for us, and awed watching her bring that new human, our child, into existance within her body. The older I get the more impressed I become.

Forty million abortions over the past thirty years, is an atrosity, unmatched in human history. It exposes abortion for what it is-an escape from responsibility for irresponsible men and women, who are unworthy of participating in the most rewarding and pleasurable experience that two humans can share.

Wake up America! Abortion on demand is for a society of losers.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

I'm watching C-Span and the women's rights blabfest.* One of the black women made a speech in which she fraudulently co-opted Sojourner Truth's "Ain't I A Woman?" speech in order to make her points. I just recently read the speech, so I dug it out. Sojourner Truth's speech was about women's rights, not reproductive rights. The black woman who spoke today is a fraud.

Here is the text of Sojourner Truth's speech, and it had nothing at all to do with reproductive rights. In fact, in it, she grieved over the loss of her children, most of whom were taken away from her and sold into slavery.

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Sojourner walked to the podium and slowly took off her sunbonnet. Her six-foot frame towered over the audience. She began to speak in her deep, resonant voice: "Well, children, where there is so much racket, there must be something out of kilter, I think between the Negroes of the South and the women of the North - all talking about rights - the white men will be in a fix pretty soon. But what's all this talking about?"

Sojourner pointed to one of the ministers. "That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody helps me any best place. And ain't I a woman?"

Sojourner raised herself to her full height. "Look at me! Look at my arm." She bared her right arm and flexed her powerful muscles. "I have plowed, I have planted and I have gathered into barns. And no man could head me. And ain't I a woman?"

"I could work as much, and eat as much as man - when I could get it - and bear the lash as well! And ain't I a woman? I have borne children and seen most of them sold into slavery, and when I cried out with a mother's grief, none but Jesus heard me. And ain't I a woman?"

The women in the audience began to cheer wildly.

She pointed to another minister. "He talks about this thing in the head. What's that they call it?"

"Intellect," whispered a woman nearby.

"That's it, honey. What's intellect got to do with women's rights or black folks' rights? If my cup won't hold but a pint and yours holds a quart, wouldn't you be mean not to let me have my little half-measure full?"

"That little man in black there! He says women can't have as much rights as men. ‘Cause Christ wasn't a woman. She stood with outstretched arms and eyes of fire. "Where did your Christ come from?"

"Where did your Christ come from?", she thundered again. "From God and a Woman! Man had nothing to do with him!"

The entire church now roared with deafening applause.

"If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down all alone, these women together ought to be able to turn it back and get it right-side up again. And now that they are asking to do it the men better let them."

"Obliged to you for hearing me, and now old Sojourner ain't got nothing more to say."

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Not a word in it about reproductive rights. Nope, not one.

And to Rand, the president of NOW, who had her daughter up on the podium (or whoever that little girl was), while she was speaking, what a liar! She said she wanted to make sure that when the girls of today grow up, that they would be able to marry whom they choose. Excuse me? Women don't have that freedom now? Frauds, one and all.

* I'm watching, with the sound off, reading the subtitles. I don't want to hear those shrill harridans speak.

[Mr. Silverback]

At times, I've had a fantasy about my generation as the last brigade parading for reproductive rights under a banner of "Post-Menopausal Women for Choice."

At times, I've had a fantasy about going into psychiatric research so I could name a mental illness after Ellen Goodman.

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[rwfromkansas]

Goodman is smoking crack.

If she would check the polls instead of live in her 60's fake world, she would realize young people are the most pro-life of all people!

[Southack]

Their march today in Washington, D.C. seemed to be a big bust. They originally called for it to be a million woman march, then toned that down to 500,000 recently...but it seems that only 100,000 showed up today, and many of those were foreigners from 60 other nations.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

Its a wonder there are even ANY YOUNG ones at the protest.They are lucky to be alive because their mothers are murderers.Check C-span to see every short haired,lazy,unclean tramp in the nation.

[Polonius]

... and when 10,000 American women a year died from illegal abortions

This statistic seems ridiculous on its face. Does anyone know its origin?

[Dianna]

"Responsibility" cuts both ways in conversations and attitudes, especially about abortion. For some "responsibility" means women have the obligation to avoid unwanted pregnancy. For others, it suggests women need the access and information to make the right decisions.

What on earth does this mean? Some people think responsibility means taking an action and other people think responsibility means someone else telling you stuff so that when you screw up then you can figure out what to do?

[BlkConserv]

Ellen Goodman is a commie columnist for the Boston Globe.

[TASMANIANRED]

The other dirtly little secret about abortion is that women are still dying.

I have taken care of women with post operative sepsis, perforated uteri and other complications.

The back alley abortionist with a coat hanger has been transformed to the minimally trained tech, ultra sound technician or med school resident that has already put in 100 hours work that week .

Most abortion clinics can't meet the hygine standards required by most tatoo parlors.

Death certificates are notoriously non specific.
They list sepsis , or hemmorhage as cause of death, not post abortion acquired sepsis or hemmorhage due to perforation of an abortion.