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To: Maceman
I don't believe that I have presented myself as an authority on the Bible.

Hmmm, you seem to be someone who can freely criticize it and refute it, all that without knowing anything fundamental about it.

Nor do I think one needs to be an authority on the Bible to know that the Genesis version of creation holds that God created the world and everything in it in six days.

What you "think" seems to be incorrect.

Odd that the creator of the universe and all things would base a time system on a "day" of 24 earth hours, a time that relates to it's relationship to one star.

I have no idea why you think that the meaning of numbers in the Bible has any bearing whatsoever on my original comment in this thread.

I only refer to the post I replied too. A numbers are what YOU brought up.

But to answer your question -- I have not studied the Bible in detail and don't know anything about the meaning of numbers in the Bible.

That was painfully apparent from your post.

What I do know is that a strict interpretation of the Genesis account is not, and never will be, scientifically valid.

Hmm, for a person who has just confessed to his ignorance of the bible, it seems mysterious that you claim to know what a "strict" interpretation is. And also seem to assume that whatever that fantasy definition is, is the ONLY interpretation.

that will not serve as scientific validation that the world was created through the process portrayed in Genesis.

Science huh? Well, change one variable, in this case the definition of a day, and see if the hypothesis is now workable.

173 posted on 04/26/2004 9:25:27 AM PDT by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Protagoras
I have neither criticized nor refuted the Bible. I have only said that it is NOT science.

Odd that the creator of the universe and all things would base a time system on a "day" of 24 earth hours, a time that relates to it's relationship to one star.

Well, yes, I have heard this point made before. Henry Drummond (Spencer Tracy) used it to nail Matthew Harrison Brady (Ed Begley) on the witness stand in the movie "Inherit the Wind." When he got Brady to admit that the first day could have been more than 24 hours (since the Sun was not created on the first day), his next line was: "Then you INTERPRET!" Drummond went on to suggest that without the sun, the first day could have been 10 million years. Of course, even if one grants this interpretation, it hardly addresses some of the other problems with Genesis -- from a scientific standpoint.

Odd that the creator of the universe and all things would base a time system on a "day" of 24 earth hours, a time that relates to it's relationship to one star.

I completely agree. That's one problem with the Genesis account. I didn't write it. But I have read it. And it does speak of each event of the creation taking a day."

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

We read the first 5 verses of Genesis discussing the first day of creation. The remainder of creation follows:

Day 2 verses 6-8, God created the firmament (or expanse).
Day 3 God created the dry land and separated from the seas, and the plants. 9-13
Day 4 God created light, stars, moon and sun. 14-19
Day 5 God created life in the waters, birds 20-23
Day 6 God created animals on the land and the beasts of the field 24-25
Also on day 6, God created the crown of His creation. Man was created in the image of God.
Day 7 God rested to give man a day of rest.

Now I have a question for you. How is it that God created the sun BEFORE he created the seas? I see that you are very good at snide and disparaging remarks, but perhaps with your great knowledge of the scientific accuracy of the Bible, perhaps you could enlighten me as to the scientific evidence to support the notion that the sea -- and also the plants -- was created before the sun.

174 posted on 04/26/2004 10:07:15 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Protagoras; Maceman
Odd that the creator of the universe and all things would base a time system on a "day" of 24 earth hours, a time that relates to it's relationship to one star.

And then we also have THIS to contend with:


2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

184 posted on 04/26/2004 8:14:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Truth is violated by falsehood, but it is outraged by silence.)
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