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To: victoryatallcosts
It was absolutely amazing to see our group pause and join hands in the midst of this criminal outburst and pray for those that were there persecuting us.

If one of them had gotten in my wife's face I can absolutely guarantee you he'd have been lying on the ground begging me not to break his fingers.

I'm a christian, but when people assault me, I fight back, I don't initiate a prayer circle. I pray when the circumstances warrant it. Not when someone's shoving a gun, ashtray, napkin holder, or some other object or instrument of physical violence, including their own hands, in my face.

I'm sorry, I just don't have the patience. It's one thing to come marching thru the room, but getting in people's faces I have absolutely zero tolerance for.

10 posted on 04/19/2004 10:41:18 PM PDT by wingster
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As to talking with them, they are way beyond talking to. Non-militant gays are worth talking to. Not ones that are that agendized. As well, you'll never accomplish a thing talking to them in a mob. Not a thing other than to outrage them even more. Trust me! Been there done that, many many times!
12 posted on 04/19/2004 10:43:11 PM PDT by wingster
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To: wingster
Oh, I agree with you. I'm a Christian, but I'm not quite one of "those" Christians, if you catch what I mean.

Of course, if they fought back, they'd have been branded as criminals.
13 posted on 04/19/2004 10:43:26 PM PDT by victoryatallcosts
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To: wingster
I'm a christian, but when people assault me, I fight back

In Psalms 144:1, David writes:

"Blessed be the Lord my strength which teaches my hands to war, and my fingers to fight"
33 posted on 04/20/2004 12:38:05 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (The Bill of Rights......Void where prohibited.)
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To: wingster
There is nothing wrong with self defense.
35 posted on 04/20/2004 1:49:40 AM PDT by oceanperch (King Vanity Parking Only all others will be towed)
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To: wingster
I agree. The only bad thing, we (you and I ) would be the ones spending the night in jail, all though we would have been defending ourselves, and our wives honor.
50 posted on 04/20/2004 6:16:20 AM PDT by ChevyZ28 (Most of us would rather be ruined by praise, than saved by criticism.)
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To: wingster
Not when someone's shoving a gun, ashtray, napkin holder, or some other object or instrument of physical violence, including their own hands, in my face.

You could take the item they're shoving in your face and return the favor by cramming it into the hinter orifice. But, that's probably something they do to themselves anyway, just for grins.

55 posted on 04/20/2004 7:18:08 AM PDT by Alouette (Gaza -- Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum)
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To: wingster
I'm a Christian, but when people assault me, I fight back, I don't initiate a prayer circle.

I agree. I don't interpret Christ's admonition to "turn the other cheek" to mean we are to tolerate all enemies, just those within ones immediate community. I believe its purpose was to promote, at the time, harmony amongst Jesus followers and not initiate Pacifism.

I turn the other cheek to my neighbor, I kick the rear cheek of the stranger that kicks me.

69 posted on 04/20/2004 10:33:15 AM PDT by elbucko
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