[wingster]

As to talking with them, they are way beyond talking to. Non-militant gays are worth talking to. Not ones that are that agendized. As well, you'll never accomplish a thing talking to them in a mob. Not a thing other than to outrage them even more. Trust me! Been there done that, many many times!

[victoryatallcosts]

Don't need to tell me. My first act of political activism was to launch a fight against the first "Queer-Straight" Alliance in my home Province (which happened to be at my school). I got 1/4 of the school to sign a petition denouncing them (or, rather, a specific item they were pushing which would have required all teachers in the Province to act as Sponsors of QSA's if asked).

In reprisal, I was hauled before two administators and a School Counillor (along with the leaders of the QSA) for a 'mediation' which was much more of an inqusition. I'm proud to say that I stood my ground against the bastards.