Heavy Fighting in AR Ramadi Iraq~~~ Sadr's fighters have attacked US Forces.

Fox News

[Dog]

Just broke on Fox

[oceanview]

perhaps, but Karen is too nice.

best choice for white house press sec'y - Bernard Goldberg.

[txradioguy]

Simon and Schuster/ Viacom huh?

Funny I don't remember them giving Rush this kind of run-up for his two books they published.

[TexasCowboy]

What was our objective in the VietNam War?

We had no clear objective.
We lost the war.

I'm not saying I'd like to see every human being in Iraq bombed to smithereens.
I'm saying that if there's a choice between civilian casualties and US casualties, let's let the civilians take the blow.
They're smart enough to know we're coming, and, just like in 'Nam, you can't tell the good guys from the bad guys.

[Miss Marple]

Karen laying it on the line. "Who has called someone 'crooked and liars?' Certainly not President Bush. Who has used scripture twice to attack the Prresident? Senator Kerry. There is no place in American political life for that kind of personal attack."

Way to go, Karen!!

[prairiebreeze]

Karen handled Larry and the DUmmies (mostly DUmmies) just fine! She comes across as genuine and credible. And she didn't avoid or back off even one question. Good for her to point out it's the RATS issuing personal attacks, although Larry clearly couldn't see it.

But then Larry doesn't have much of a view of anything considering where his head resides.

Prairie

[Liberty Valance]

Bernard Goldberg....hmmmmm, is he a Republican? I know he wrote the book on Bias...maybe you're right.

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[arasina]

O'Reilly's poll question:

If the chaos continues in Iraq, will President Bush lose the election?

[oceanview]

he's a Dem. who cares. he understand the makeup of the media better then anyone, he knows who they are, who trained them, who they answer to, how they think, how they spin.

[Warren_Piece]

I detest that attitude that since we don't know the future we didn't plan. Yeesh. Wars are *all about* surprises.

We need to heed the immortal words of Donald Rumsfeld:

Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know.

[altura]

Q. What's the difference between O'Reilly and God?

A. God doesn't think he's O'Reilly.

[capocchio]

we pretty much do things everywhere at the same standards as we do in North America

I wish more people on the street realized that, but they've been brainwashed by the PGM's (paranoia generating media) to "know" otherwise. I consult to your industry, and it's time the serious impact the threat posed by lawsuits and environmental actifists in the EPA has on mining (and other heavy industry in the US, such as oil and chemicals) was more widely publicized. Then maybe something could be done about it.

The media won't do it, but it sounds like Bush has the Republicans at least starting to say that the sky is not falling afterall, that global warming is a myth, that water and air are cleaner, that we have made enormous progress on the environmental front.

Our industry came through to help win WW II for us, and a major reason was they were run on democratic principles, letting ideas flow up as well as down, as opposed to the command and control policies of our enemies. Well, now the EPA operates on the top-down only command and control principle and we're losing our heavy industry to offshore countries (as in China, South America, Mexico, South Pacific etc. etc.). They're not so democratic there, just less nazified.

Frustration drives one to consider a 21st Century Boston tea party (a la Ayn Rand), but really all that is needed is daylighting the truth and some proactive initiatives to recover our lost industry.

[oceanview]

McInerny and Vallely on the John Batchelor show now.

Both saying that Bush must make the connection publicly that Sadr is backed by terrorist elements of Iran (and Syria), that this is a direct battle in the war on terror, not just some civil uprising in iraq.

[TexKat]

txradioguy what is your take on post #1230? Will no shite and sunni group together against the Americans.?

[altura]

--she was a real looker back in '73...

weren't we all?

[altura]

That's what I heard about Woodward's first book, which is why I wonder that Rush keeps saying this next one is a horrible hit piece.

[txradioguy]

IMHO I think that if it serves their greater interest you could see the anti-American Shite's join with the Ba'ath Socialist Party Suni's. But that will only happen if the forces working against us (a small minority actually) decide they can do something to make us leave.

That isn't happening so far.

What IS happening in Iraq is Sunni, Shia, Kurd and Christian working TOGETHER with the U.S. trying to form a democratic Iraq. And the people fighting against us HATE that fact. al-Sadr is a low level Cleric with a bunch of young angry youth behind him. (Think an Islamic Howard Dean).

[Mr. Buzzcut]

Wonder why Woodward never wrote a book about the Clinton campaign finance/ technology to China "snafu" ... actually, I don't wonder ...

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

I'm just trying to save you time. Ailes could care less what you think.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Sound like a moron all you want. It's a free country.

[PattonReincarnated]

>> I have always believed that the primary reasons we went into Iraq were to lay a public smackdown on a muslim terrorist nation ("pour encourager les autres", if that's the phrase), and to establish major bases right in the middle of the Islamic world.

I have to agree with your analysis. As a little exercise, how does the United States military project the most power in the middle east? Pick a spot, any spot. Add to the equation, what country do we know we can easily kick their butts without incurring heavy casualties. Add to the equation, after taking Afghanistan, what strategic move best accomplishes putting heavy pressure on Iran. What also puts you next door to Jordan, Syria, and Saudi Arabia? The answer is Iraq.

I'm only thinking from a military perspective. I hope from a political perspective that our forces will not leave Iraq anytime soon. There better be a deal as part of the hand off of political power to Iraq, that US forces remain in Iraq for peacekeeping purposes, or what every want to call it. But, it should not be for peacekeeping purposes. I do not want our troops keeping peace. Our military should two things - kill and break things and practice killing and breaking things.

Send one division to the border of Syria. Reinforce that division with a fresh division from the states. Send another division to border of Iran, and let internal pressures come to heads to overthrow the government there. Send another division to border of Saudi. Then apply heavy pressure on Saudi, and make them pump oil - lots of oil. Give Saudi a chance to reform - I say, about 1 year of a lack of response will give us enought time to roll over Saudi.

Back on the Syrian front, simply destroy Syria - learn from mistakes in Iraq, and this time ramp up the violence so there is no question what our intent is. My intent, and I only wish it was our government's intent, is simple. All the people of nations such as Iraq, Iran, Saudi, Jordan, Syria, Libya, Eqypt, etc. will no long submit to Islam. They will submit to the US. It is brutal violence that will force them to submit to the US. Syria will serve as an example to the world that we have changed our policy. We are no longer in the nation building business, we are in the domination business. Leave them in rubble, scared, and in pain. Let it be known for a dozen generations the horror that occurs when you do nothing as a people within a nation that supports terrorism.

This addresses the heart of the matter. Iraq is a perfect example. The people of Iraq do not have a tradition, culture, understanding, or the will to be free. There basis of existence has been submission. Until there comes a day that these people are willing to 1.) recognize evil, 2.) fight evil and 3.) choose freedom over submission, this problem will continue. Personally, I don't think these people are able to any of the above three. Thus, submission to the United States solves our problem, and in the long run it will solve their problems as well.