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Heavy Fighting in AR Ramadi Iraq~~~ Sadr's fighters have attacked US Forces.
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Posted on 04/06/2004 11:53:54 AM PDT by Dog

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To: StriperSniper
FNC played Dodd's comments from the Senate floor.

I think it was durring Brit's show.
1,381 posted on 04/07/2004 3:50:59 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: TexKat
You nailed it. BTW did you happen to see Larry King with Karen Hughes last night? He played clips from Clarke and Kerry and tried real hard to crush her. I've taken him off my list as well.
1,382 posted on 04/07/2004 4:23:15 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: BushMeister
>> I think we're too light to do something like you've outlined, unless Iraq gets REAL peaceful real soon.

I was getting to long winded to convey the complete idea in the last post. Iraq is going to get REAL peaceful, after we get REAL violent. Moving to the borders would occur at the earliest, after the Nov. elections.

As for the threat to the Saudi's and Iranians, it is meant to only be a threat initially. Syria is going to serve as the example. Initially two division poised as a threat. The purpose here is to give them one last chance (knowing that will not work), to ratchet up the rhetoric, and garner American popular support for the effort. In other words, it is just enough to start a war.

As for troop deployments and units leaving Iraq, this would have to be factored into the play. I just want enough to start the war. Ground troops will not be needed initially, and over time, their numbers will rise. One primary purpose of the troops on the borders of Syria and Iran is to isolate Iraq. Movement between Iraq, Syria and Iran will be eliminated. Thinking of this, it makes sense to do the same in Afgahnistan eventually to put more pressure on Iran.

Our aircraft carriers has to be turned around, trained, and then deployed to the Med. Munnitions need to be move into Iraq to support air and ground assault. I think in the case of Syria, the shock and awe as we performed in Iraq is not adequate. We should utilize many more non-smart weapons. That does not exclude the smart weapons for when we truely need to take out targets with percision. The 'dumb' weapons are used to strike fear in Syrians. They will submit to the US, not Islam. This is achieved through extreme violence. When ten times the amount of dumb bombs are used when compared to smart bombs, that violence seems much more real to the people of Syria. I have have visions of Dresden in mind. Based on intelligence there would be zero targets that are excluded. That would include schools, hospitals, and mosques. Using Iraq as an example, these are the exact places where weapons were stored, and terror is rallied. The air campaign will be long. The Syria will be cut off from the rest of the world, and starved out. All electricity, water, and food supplies will be immediately destroyed. This will break the back of terror in Syria and totally destroy the will of the Syrian people.

I must make this completely clear. The root of the problem is not the terrorists. The root of the problem is not the type of weapons terrorist use (airplanes crashed into buidings, roadside bombs, chemical weapons as recently discovered in the UK, or any type of WMD.) This idea that the type of weapons being used actually change the problem is hideous. It's like saying an M-16 is an assult weapon and needs to banned. But it is okay to buy an AR-15, or semi-auto shot gun used for hunting. All of those weapons can be equally deadly if used in appropriate circumstances, and many other weapons can be improvised. It is not the weapon is what is behind the weapon - any weapon.

What is behind the weapon are terrorists and gangs of thugs. And those terrorists and gangs of thugs are supported by the people of these countries. The people of these countries are told to support the terrorists and thugs by the mosques. The people who sit on the sidelines and do nothing are just as responsible for letting this occur in their countries. Their governments are just as responsible for supporting in some cases and ignoring in other cases. The root of the problem is Islam. EVERY mosque in Baghdad today was calling for Jihad against America. That was reported in a AP wire report. This is the source of the problem. We need to make these people submit not to Islam, but submit to America.

The reason why Syria is chosen as the first target is that they are an easier target to crumble, and there is no signficant movement in Syria to change their support for terrorism. Iran on the other hand a much more difficult traget to take on, and there are protest daily in the streets of Iran.

What thas said, Iran is next if they do not change their ways. And we will keep on expanding the fight until it is over. This sounds like an expensive endevour and would require signficant amount of troops. But I have no intention of rebuilding countries. I have no intention of occupying countries. These countries will be reduced to a 7th century economy so they can be closer to Mohammad. We will drain these countries dry of natural resources. Once done, we are out of there.

Next on the list is Saudi and Egypt. And once Syria is complete, Lebanon would be too. Egypt is rarely mentioned in the war on terror, but they have the same problems in being convinced that they need to change their ways. Yesterday for example, another tunnel between Epypt and the Gaza Strip was discovered. This tunnel was used to send bombs and supplies to terrorists in Gaza. The Egyptian government does nothing about this. Our relationship with Egypt is based on the dogma of the cold war, it needs to be changed to be based on the War on Terror.

The Dogma for the War on Terror is simple. People and nations that proven their support for terror and lack of action towards terror that are not worthy of living in the the 21st century. You know have the privledge to live in the 7th century, just like Mohammand. You will submit to America, not to Islam. Perhaps in several hundred years they will be worthy of being in the community of nations.
1,383 posted on 04/07/2004 9:45:05 AM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: Dog; piasa; backhoe; FairOpinion; All
JIHAD WATCH.org (NewsMax.com): "KERRY: TERRORIST SHIITE AL-SADR 'A LEGITIMATE VOICE'" (April 7, 2004) (Read More...)

1,384 posted on 04/07/2004 11:01:15 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: sarasota
The only time I watch LK is when he has someone on like Karen Hughes.
1,385 posted on 04/07/2004 11:10:15 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Getsmart64
Listen stop assuming for me willya.

I'm not letting a reporter guide my thoughts and feelings. Funny you mention feeeeeeeeeeeings, that so American Oprah nowadays.

And u haven't told me what outlets are approved by you.

I haven't committed suicide and i watched CNN> Martin Savidge is a great reporter and his reports were great.

Unlike your collectivism judgement, I evaluate the reports myself and judge the individual reporters.

Thanks for all that info about yourself and me, And that advice, certainly will take it tres tres seriously.

1,386 posted on 04/07/2004 11:50:43 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
*Yawn*
1,387 posted on 04/07/2004 12:25:37 PM PDT by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: Getsmart64
Backatcha Yawn.

Now what? Any discussion of the thread's topic or another diversion into media sources?
1,388 posted on 04/07/2004 12:28:47 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Hand em their arse
Here is some good news I heard today, this is a good start:

U.S. MARINES DROPPED a 500-pound bomb on a mosque compound in Fallujah. Witnesses said dozens of people were killed.
1,389 posted on 04/07/2004 3:01:13 PM PDT by optik_b (follow the money)
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