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Live Thread - September 11 Commission, Day 2, Wednesday, March 24, 2004
CSPAN 3, CBS webfeed ^ | March 24, 2004

Posted on 03/24/2004 6:11:22 AM PST by TomGuy

Live thread for Day 2 of the September 11 Commission Hearings.

CSPAN 3 seems to be the only CSPAN covering this in various formats. http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=

Also CBS webfeed opens Real Player. http://cgi.cbs.com/video/video.pl?url=/broadcast/*/livenews.rm&plugin=1&proto=rtsp

CBS news website may have other feed formats.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911commission; armitage; cia; cspan; richardclarke; sandyberger; tenet
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To: Yaelle
If she has those documents, she better be getting herself to a safe house or hire a body guard.
2,841 posted on 03/24/2004 2:08:31 PM PST by hoosiermama (Ask Kerry to list the major pieces of enacted legislation he has authored in his career.)
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To: hoosiermama
If she has those documents, she better be getting herself to a safe house or hire a body guard.

And a lawyer

2,842 posted on 03/24/2004 2:08:57 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Republican Red
That dude is this year's French boytoy, bought and paid for by French Viacom. Wonder what pittance he got for selling out his President and his country.
2,843 posted on 03/24/2004 2:09:40 PM PST by Nix 2 (Condolences and blessings to all the victims of Arab Terror. May their blood be avenged.)
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To: prairiebreeze
The media is saying this is day two of the hearings, when in fact it's day ten. They've already had 8 days of closed sessions thus far.
2,844 posted on 03/24/2004 2:09:53 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Howlin
No, but I can feel it here! I'm to ticked I could spit! I will be calling the 9/11 Commission very early in the morning and lodging my complaints.
2,845 posted on 03/24/2004 2:10:22 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Spotsy
Who or what is TJ Wilkinson?

Back around the time Joe Wilson wrote his op-ed about Niger/yellowcake in July, Doug Thompson of Capitol Hill Blue wrote an article stating that a Terrance Wilkinson, associated with the CIA, sat in the oval office and heard Bush say, when informed no evidence Iraq was connected to 9/11, to "find some".

It was a freeper who did some research and asked Thompson directly (registered here on FR under his own name) and long story short, Thompson ended up admitting he'd been "snookered" by this supposed long-time source.

We are left to wonder if he actually made Wilkinson up out of thin air or if Wilkinson is a pseudonym.

But you see how this malicious story--which incidentally other media organizations which normally ignore CHB but picked this one up--dovetails with the story line the left has been using to attack: The Bush administration "lied" about intelligence, and the Bush administration was determined to go into Iraq by hell or high water.

2,846 posted on 03/24/2004 2:11:15 PM PST by cyncooper ("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Yeah and they never did get the vote of the SCOTUS on the election correct. It was 7-2.
2,847 posted on 03/24/2004 2:11:16 PM PST by hoosiermama (Ask Kerry to list the major pieces of enacted legislation he has authored in his career.)
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To: hoosiermama
Gen Downing on MSNBC is saying that Clarke doesn't know the whole picture and doesn't know what happened to lead up to Iraq
2,848 posted on 03/24/2004 2:12:34 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: maica
Thanks for posting. Somehow I think the next hearing may be a tad different if the WH takes any hints from this. If nothing else they should ban cheering.
2,849 posted on 03/24/2004 2:13:06 PM PST by plain talk
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To: ShandaLear
Very different.

The elite NY media made the harrassment of a 21 year old intern in the oval office, the fault of:

Linda Tripp, a Judas, a disloyal friend and an illigal wiretapper.

Ken Starr became a religious pervert.

Now:

Bush is evil, Saddam is innocent, OBL was ALLOWED to get away, Bush killed citizens on 9/11 and soldiers in Iraq.

The die has been cast.
2,850 posted on 03/24/2004 2:13:16 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: nutmeg; kristinn; All
CLARKE WITNESSED FIRST-HAND THE CLINTONS' UTTER FAILURE TO FIGHT TERRORISMBUMP




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 Mia T, On Neutered and Neutering
by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)

 "The instant that second plane hit, I said to the person with whom I was speaking, 'Bin Laden did this.' I knew immediately. I know what this network can do."

bill clinton

 



COMMENT: The above inculpatory remark by the impeached erstwhile ersatz prez is illustrative of
the synergy of profound psychological dysfunction and rube arrogance rooted in stupidity. That
remark is his legacy's death knell.



Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
MANSOOR IJAZ
December 5, 2001

Lopez: In sum, how many times did Bill Clinton lose bin Laden?

Miniter: Here's a rundown. The Clinton administration:

1. Did not follow-up on the attempted bombing of Aden marines in Yemen.

2. Shut the CIA out of the 1993 WTC bombing investigation, hamstringing their effort to capture bin Laden.

3. Had Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a key bin Laden lieutenant, slip through their fingers in Qatar.

4. Did not militarily react to the al Qaeda bombing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

5. Did not accept the Sudanese offer to turn bin Laden.

6. Did not follow-up on another offer from Sudan through a private back channel.

7. Objected to Northern Alliance efforts to assassinate bin Laden in Afghanistan.

8. Decided against using special forces to take down bin Laden in Afghanistan.

9. Did not take an opportunity to take into custody two al Qaeda operatives involved in the East African embassy bombings. In another little scoop, I am able to show that Sudan arrested these two terrorists and offered them to the FBI. The Clinton administration declined to pick them up and they were later allowed to return to Pakistan.

10. Ordered an ineffectual, token missile strike against a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory.

11. Clumsily tipped off Pakistani officials sympathetic to bin Laden before a planned missile strike against bin Laden on August 20, 1998. Bin Laden left the camp with only minutes to spare.

12-14. Three times, Clinton hesitated or deferred in ordering missile strikes against bin Laden in 1999 and 2000.

15. When they finally launched and armed the Predator spy drone plane, which captured amazing live video images of bin Laden, the Clinton administration no longer had military assets in place to strike the archterrorist.

16. Did not order a retaliatory strike on bin Laden for the murderous attack on the USS Cole.





hillary talks:ON TERROR

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"Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America from Terrorism

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The Man Who Warned America
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UDAY: "The end is near… this time I think the… Americans are serious, Bush is not like Clinton."


2,851 posted on 03/24/2004 2:13:28 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: hoosiermama
Right. The media was reporting it was 5-4, comparing it to the same vote of Roe v. Wade.
2,852 posted on 03/24/2004 2:13:32 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Mo1
Saxby Chambliss just said that Clarkes testimony to the senate intelligence committee behind closed doors is 180 degrees out of phase with his current testimony.

If so, he should be charged with perjury.

2,853 posted on 03/24/2004 2:14:01 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: Yaelle
I thought I was DREAMING; did I hear that? Sean asked to get copies of her docs off the air; she sounded very credible.

Whatever was the outcome on the last document Hannity got his hands on?

2,854 posted on 03/24/2004 2:14:04 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: mombonn
Exactly, mombonn. Exactly.
2,855 posted on 03/24/2004 2:14:11 PM PST by cyncooper ("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
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To: Mo1
Saxby Chambliss blasting Clarke on FNC right now, saying what he said today is 180 out of phase from what he was telling members of the Senate and House in closed door sessions.
2,856 posted on 03/24/2004 2:15:04 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: cyncooper
I'm on the same side. But I also realize that the whole country doesn't watch Fox News and read the NY Post. It's frustrating because we have to fight twice as hard - against both the rats and the media.
2,857 posted on 03/24/2004 2:15:18 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: arasina
Doesn't matter...we will have footage of US troops leaving Iraq this summer...footage of Osama dead or captured...etc.

All this hand-wringing about a few days of hearings today is irrelevant.
2,858 posted on 03/24/2004 2:16:21 PM PST by Keith (IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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To: arasina
I don't think it matters what happens in this hearing. The voters are not looking for a talker (Kerry) to take the office, they are looking for a shootist and W is all of that and more. W's numbers will take a dip for two weeks and then begin an ascent into landslide territory.

The Demos are still working on the old paradigm, a policy wonk, detail seeking beaurocrat rather than the man of action paradigm.

Clinton knew about Al Qaeda and did nothing, Bush is killing them. With whom do you trust your family's safety?

2,859 posted on 03/24/2004 2:16:32 PM PST by TexanToTheCore
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To: Just mythoughts
Oh for heavens' sake! This was not a "classified" conversation. This was a background briefing with a GROUP of news people. The WH owns the info - controls the info - they can release the info if they want!!

Fox didn't do anything wrong. Bob Kerry should be ashamed of himself for trying to imply that they did. And .. the 9/11 commission is going to about it from me in the morning.
2,860 posted on 03/24/2004 2:17:20 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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