Live Thread - September 11 Commission, Day 2, Wednesday, March 24, 2004

CSPAN 3, CBS webfeed ^ | March 24, 2004

[TomGuy]

Live thread for Day 2 of the September 11 Commission Hearings.

CSPAN 3 seems to be the only CSPAN covering this in various formats. http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=

Also CBS webfeed opens Real Player. http://cgi.cbs.com/video/video.pl?url=/broadcast/*/livenews.rm&plugin=1&proto=rtsp

CBS news website may have other feed formats.

[LisaFab]

Why does this second-tier POS get 2 1/2 hours when all other got 1 1/2? Why does he rate a "second round" of questioning? To rehabilitate his lies?

Anyone know just how this agenda was set?

[McGavin999]

OMG the guy recommended a Secret Police!

[cyncooper]

JFKerry plans to come to Kansas City on Saturday

Operation "Cover up November 1971 meeting in KC"?

[Mo1]

Clarke sure seems to be pointing A LOT of fingers at many people and many departments

I see a ton of bricks falling on him in the near future

This is not going to sit well with others and you just watch the amount of information that comes out on Clarke

[coloradomom]

I hope that Fox News replays the clip of Fred Fielding, in his polite, gentle way, telling Clarke he understood that integrity in one's position is important. Clarke obviously doesn't have any of that

[Howlin]

MEG, I just cannot believe this.

They are treating this man like he is a god.

[YaYa123]

The Republican governor who did such a good job of comparing Clark's book with his briefing, should have asked one more question:

Mr. Clark, who asked you to give the August briefing to the media?

[HarryCaul]

This black helicopter line won't serve the democrats well. It'll play to the Michael Moore crowd, but with the mainstream they'll just look silly.

[hobbes1]

I nearly peed myself when he said that.

[Just mythoughts]

"Man, the Dems do hate Condi, don't they? She's just too "uppity" for their plantation, I guess."


She surely appears to be a threat to them.

[TomasUSMC]

One of the problems is that Democrats see acts of terrorism as actions of criminals and Republicans see them as actions of War. Thus Dumbocrats go after the individual and Republicans go after the Countries that sponsor Terror.

I believe we should concentrate on punishment and not rebuilding. Level Baghdad and Damascus and let them decide if they want to rebuild as an Islamist Society or a Democratic one - with the condition stated in no uncertain terms that a choice of Islam would greatly increase the probability of their Country disappearing

[jayef]

The point is to go just far enough. Too far and you're a Republican Attack Dog. I think Lehman and Thompson have played it just right. Let the media fill in the gaps and do some digging. They won't be able to ignore it now. The truth is out there and they can't continue to hide from it. They can tapdance . . . but they can't hide.

[cyncooper]

Roemer is impressed with Clarke's memory.

[Diogenesis]

ALL THE FOLLOWING AND MORE ARE IGNORED BY CLARKE AND HIS CLAPPING SUPPORTERS

=========== Documents linking Atta, Saddam, Nidal, bin Ladin ===========

Handwritten letter dated Feb. 19, 1998 linking bin Laden and Saddam Hussein
discussing arrival of a secret envoy sent by bin Laden to Iraq.
The signature beneath the letter is a codename, "MDA" - the Mukhabarat.

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========= Chemical Warhead found in Kirkuk =============

Chemical warhead found at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band,
the symbol for chemical weaponry. Trace amounts of a nerve agent were found
at two spots along the ~meter-long warhead. These amounts are consistent with
leakage from the chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next to it.

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========= Halabja =========

Dead children, previously playing in Halabja
Victims of Saddams' WMD in March 1988.

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=========== French missiles FIRST given to Iraq to be USED Against US and Coalition Heroes =========

French missiles found by the Poles, and to protect France, blown up.

Froggies said they did not say "2003". LOL. Decide for yourself.

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Iraqi missiles given to, and now located in, Syria:

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========= RUSSIAN MISSILES AND DIRTY BOMBS FOUND IN IRAQ =========

Russian-made R-60, NATO AA-8 Aphid, air-to-air missiles were found..
The Russian-made missiles are >6 feet long. Each carries 3.5 pounds of uranium.
wrapped around a high explosive warhead (13.2-pound) making a "dirty bomb".

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Also found in Iraq:

* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service
that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials
working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home,
one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.

* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF),
and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in
resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission
that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles,
a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists
have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km -
well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed
Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

* Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology
related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles,
and other prohibited military equipment.

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Still missing based on the UNSCOM report to the UN Security Council in January 1999,
when the UN inspectors left Iraq in 1998, they had been unable to account for:

• up to 360 tons of bulk chemical warfare agents, including 1.5 tons of VX nerve agent;

• up to 3,000 tons of precursor chemicals, including approximately 300 tons which,
in the Iraqi chemical warfare program, were unique to the production of VX;

• growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce
over three times the 8,500 litres of anthrax spores Iraq admitted to UN inspectors to having manufactured);

• over 30,000 special munitions for delivery of chemical and biological agents;

• 20 al-Hussein missles with a range of 650 km, in violation
of UN Security Council Resolution 687 (Iraq had told UNSCOM that it filled these warheads with anthrax and botulinum);

• 2,850 tons of mustard gas, 210 tons of tabun, and 795 tons of sarin and cyclosarin;

• development of the Al-Samoud short-range missle (which had the capability to fly beyond the 150 km allowed by UN resolutions)

[Hatteras]

Geeze O'flip, is this Craig Livingstone's dad?!

[ReleaseTheHounds]

Anybody notice Roemer's crooked part in his hair? Resembles John Kerry's voting record.

[mass55th]

"To hear Clarke tell it, he was leaving our country's safety to the chance of the Joint Inquiry asking exactly the right questions!"

Does anyone recall the date that Clarke testified in front of the Joint Inquiry? He insinuated that one of the reasons he didn't elaborate on things was because he was a member of the Bush Administration at the time, and I don't believe that's true.

[Solson]

Not at all!

[BigSkyFreeper]

I don't know if I will be able to stomach watching Larry The Lizard sticking his forked tongue into Clarke's ear and muttering the words "I have a secret".

[Howlin]

According to him, he had his fingers in every single thing that happened in the Bush administration!