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Mysteries Of Bog Butter Uncovered (NOTICE: Some photos may be disturbing)
Nature ^ | 3-17-2004 | Philip Ball

Posted on 03/20/2004 5:26:34 PM PST by blam

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1 posted on 03/20/2004 5:26:34 PM PST by blam
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To: farmfriend

Tollund Man (A bog person)

2 posted on 03/20/2004 5:29:51 PM PST by blam
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Bodies Of The Bogs
3 posted on 03/20/2004 5:35:58 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
That is a dead, murdered man. Very disrespectful to post photograph.
4 posted on 03/20/2004 5:37:44 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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5 posted on 03/20/2004 5:47:21 PM PST by Consort
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To: blam
Q:Between this and haggis, why are there still Scots?
6 posted on 03/20/2004 5:49:47 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Q:Between this and haggis, why are there still Scots?

Because they will eat anything while the prissy people starve? :)

7 posted on 03/20/2004 5:53:07 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proudly out of step with the majority since 1973)
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A:No. Because "if it's not Scottish it's CRAP!" - Mike Myers as All Things Scottish store owner.
8 posted on 03/20/2004 5:56:26 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Alter Kaker
If Mona Lisa's Mother were Jewish, she'd have said: "After all that money your father and I spent on braces, that's the biggest smile you can give us?"
9 posted on 03/20/2004 5:57:14 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you are driving the monkey to the airport!)
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To: blam
In a new scientific breakthrough, researchers at the
AlGore Institute today announced the first formulation
of Oleo-bog butter.
Made entirely from old butterfly ballots, buried in a bog
for 4 years, the new product tentatively named Gorlestra
is touted as a "Healthful, savory, intelligent alternative
to heavy, convoluted and fattening republican thinking."

Presidential Candidate John F'n. Kerry today endorsed
the product saying, "If we'd had this in Viet nam the war would have been as good as won, heck if we'd had this in
Florida in 2001 I'd still be running for President today!"

Candidate Kerry, then proceeded to polish of a good half a
kilo of Gorlestra before going out to hit the slopes.
"Damn halfwits better get out of my way this time, I sure
can't afford to end up like Sonny or that other Kennedy."
10 posted on 03/20/2004 6:02:24 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

Windeby Girl looks like Doris Kearns Goodwin.

11 posted on 03/20/2004 6:03:02 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: Alter Kaker
That is a dead, murdered man. Very disrespectful to post photograph.

Yes to both. But in the interests of forensic science, the question arises, why was he murdered, and how did he come to be buried in the bog?

The corpse is perhaps from some period that predates the Christian era, well over two thousand years ago. The perpetrator of this act is long gone and disappeared into prehistory. This would have occurred about the time the Druids were a major religion of northern Europe and the British Isles, and the death could have been part of a purification ritual, or a summary execution. Burial in the bog could have been intentional in the interest of concealing the grave from marauders, or to hide it from relatives if this were an execution.

The body is in an extraordinary state of preservation, although there are no longer any skeletal bones left. The calcium and phosphate dissolved long ago, leaving only the preserved cartilaginous protein in the bone. The skin and internal organs would have been preserved in the organic acids (largely tannic acid) that filled the bog, and protected the remaining elements from oxidation. So long as the bog remained moist, the undisturbed site was anaerobic, and the highly acidic conditions prevent the growth of any bacteria that may have otherwise consumed the body.

A most excellent specimen for a forensic pathologist to work with. You should SEE what shows up in a morgue.

12 posted on 03/20/2004 6:03:06 PM PST by alloysteel
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BTTT
13 posted on 03/20/2004 6:05:13 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: alloysteel
You should SEE what shows up in a morgue.

Actually, I'd rather not.

Makes the "bog person" look like a department store mannequin, I imagine.

14 posted on 03/20/2004 6:07:49 PM PST by livius
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To: Alter Kaker
Go, you: ask his family if they mind his picture being posted. :)
15 posted on 03/20/2004 6:08:22 PM PST by solitas (sometimes I lay awake at night looking up at the stars wondering where the heck did the ceiling go?)
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To: Alter Kaker
From reading the links, and looking at the rope around the neck, it is highly probably that it was an executed man rather than a murdered one.

This is a significant difference, unless you want to deny the society of the time the right to a death penalty while preserving our society's right to the same.

16 posted on 03/20/2004 6:16:29 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Alter Kaker
"That is a dead, murdered man. Very disrespectful to post photograph."

That's the second time I've seen this admonition. In our age of forensic science culling out murderers with the aid of information technology I tend toward the belief that tormented souls would be comforted if they could know succeeding generations are still striving to find them justice.
17 posted on 03/20/2004 6:16:30 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: alloysteel

Koelbjerg Woman, whose skull is shown here, is the oldest bog body known. We do not know how she met her end, as her bones show no sign of violence. She was, at most, 25 when she died around 8000 B.C. Her body ended up in open water, and the bones were not incorporated in peat until later. She may have simply drowned. (Fyns Stifsmuseum of Denmark, Odense)

18 posted on 03/20/2004 6:17:17 PM PST by blam
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I believe Billy Connolly did a routine along the same line. :)
19 posted on 03/20/2004 6:19:32 PM PST by solitas (sometimes I lay awake at night looking up at the stars wondering where the heck did the ceiling go?)
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To: alloysteel
Excellent explanation.

I might add, no one seems to mind when pictures of mummies, whether Old or New World, are shown; and also that Ötzi was quite possibly murdered.

As to morgues, I have seen a few, both before & after they got there. Gratefully, ONLY a few.
20 posted on 03/20/2004 6:22:03 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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