War of the Words: Scientist Attacks Alien Claims

Space.com ^ | Robert Roy Britt

[Simmy2.5]

I excerpted this article because it is a long read. Good read if you are a Hoagland fan. I know there are Hoagland fans out there, well, heres an article all about him and an astronomer who is debunking him!

And more good news...HE WILL BE ON COAST TO COAST TONIGHT! One of the topics...is this article!

[raloxk]

anyone ever hear of the Russian spacecraft that photographed something moving along Phobos, then the craft dissappeared??? happened in 1988 or 1989.

[Constantine XIII]

http://www.badastronomy.com

Phil's uber-cool site

[noutopia]

I am selling aluminum foil hats.Anyone need one?

[zoyd]

In my younger days, I came to the conclusion that Hoaglund was either a visionary genius, or a whacko.

I'm tending towards the latter... although he was, presumably, the first to suggest life on Europa, one of Jupiter's moons, a theory that is now pretty compelling.

[Simmy2.5]

He also claims to have said that there is water on Mars before NASA did. So, could be right on a number of issues (though possibly for the wrong reasons).

Hoagland is fun to listen to, but bring your tin foil hat just in case.

[DefCon]

"...Just a few months ago, a water spot on my shower curtain took on the uncanny form of the face of Vladimir Lenin..."
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I've had that happen to me before.

[Fledermaus]

This old "face" picture has been retaken from the orbiter now around Mars.

It's just a natural feature. The idea anyone thinks an old photo proves their point is not a scientist.

[Paradox]

Hoagland is a fraud who makes alot of money off of gullible people. And stupid people too. (sorry, had to be said.).

[Zeppo]

But, in his defense, he's certainly an entertaining fraud...

[Leroy S. Mort]

I saw Trotsky in a three month old container of cottage cheese once....what he was doing in the cottage cheese I'll never know.

[GATOR NAVY]

I've heard this face was made by aliens too.

NASA secretly blew it up so we couldn't find out the truth.

[Don Joe]

I saw Trotsky in a three month old container of cottage cheese once....what he was doing in the cottage cheese I'll never know.

No, it makes perfect sense. Three month old cottage cheese is revolting, after all.

[going hot]

Heck, that would give ME the trotskys.

[farmfriend]

ping

[plastic_positive]

this article claims that the sub-surface lake on Europa was proposed a decade before Hoagland mentioned it, and that life was speculated about in the academic press 6 months before his comments...

[Viking2002]

I admit that the guy really 'reaches out there' with some of his claims. But, I also live by the old adage that once in a while, even a blind squirrel will find a nut:

I have quite a diverse background in college-level physical sciences. If this is just a 'natural formation', I'd be interested to hear someone explain the process that created it. I think any paleontologist worth his rock hammer would like to get a close-up look at this thing. It sure as hell looks like a lot of cephalopod shells we studied in Oceanography 106. It was found in an area that NASA admits was once awash in water - and probably saline water, at that.

[GeronL]

Good Grief. If I turn off the light in this room, a FACE appears on the blinds. Two big eyeballs, with pupils and the shape of the face with thin lines at the nose and mouth...

Now do I think that outside lights on the buildings going through trees does this??

I keep the light on, cuz it FREAKS me out, man!

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Seriously, Hoagland utterly stretches everything to unimaginable levels.

[Marie]

You're right about that photo. And I find it curious that NASA picked that spot to grind. Maybe you can tell me what made the formations in these pictures. It's been driving me nuts for 2 years.

Mars Photos

Go to photos #23, 25 and 47.

I'll admit that Hoagland stretches thing too far, but every once in awhile he gets to me.

And if the link didn't work copy and paste this:

http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/asom/artifact_html/default.htm

[Marie]

I hate HTML...