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Kerry Remark on Foreign Leaders Faulted
NY Times ^ | 3/15/04 | Jodi Wilgoren

Posted on 03/14/2004 8:29:06 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

A Republican business owner here in this November battleground state and Secretary of State Colin L. Powell had the same questions Sunday for Senator John Kerry: Which foreign leaders told you they support your campaign, and when did you meet with them?

The questions, in a volatile exchange at a forum here and in an interview on Fox News Sunday, stemmed from a comment that Mr. Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, made last Monday at a Florida fund-raiser. It was the second time in recent days that stray comments by Mr. Kerry diverted attention from his themes of creating jobs and providing health insurance.

"I just want an honest answer," Cedric Brown, 52, who owns a small sign company, told Mr. Kerry.

"Were they people like Blair or were they people like the president of North Korea?" he asked, referring to the British prime minister, Tony Blair. "Why not tell us who it was? Senator, you're making yourself sound like a liar."

Mr. Brown's repeated questions came hours after Mr. Powell said on television that Mr. Kerry's vague claim to have the backing of unnamed foreign leaders was "an easy charge."

"If he feels it is that important an assertion to make, he ought to list some names," Mr. Powell said. "If he can't list names, then perhaps he should find something else to talk about."

Mr. Powell also challenged Mr. Kerry's recent assertions that Mr. Powell had been undermined in foreign policy debates in the Bush administration.

"Name a specific issue where it looks like I have been marginalized," Mr. Powell said.

As his aides have all week, Mr. Kerry refused Sunday to cite any names of foreign officials or describe their rank, telling reporters, "I can't violate any conversation because no one would share something with me again."

Instead, Mr. Kerry disputed the wording of his comment, and tried to change the subject from individual leaders' specific support of his efforts to oust President Bush to a broader deterioration of the United States' international reputation.

"I think the quote, the quote in the comment I made publicly, I believe, was that I `heard from,' that's the direct quote," Mr. Kerry said. "I've likewise had meetings. I've also had conversations. I said I've heard from, that was what I believe I said."

The remark came at a breakfast with about 50 fund-raisers in Florida, after one observed that Europeans were "counting on us" to "get rid of Mr. Bush."

"I've met foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly, but boy, they look at you and say, `You gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy, we need a new policy,' things like that," Mr. Kerry said, according to a transcript from a reporter who attended the session.

On Sunday, Mr. Kerry said that he had not been abroad since he announced his presidential ambitions in December 2002. In Bethlehem, he told voters he had "had conversations with a number of leaders in the course of the last two years, up until the present moment," and that he had "also had friends of mine who have met with leaders, as recently as the past week I've heard from a couple."

Speaking afterward with reporters, he said the who, when and where was not the point.

"The point is that all across the world Americans and America is meeting with a new level of hostility," Mr. Kerry said, "and that there are relationships that have been broken, and everybody who follows the foreign policy of the United States understands that."

Mr. Brown said he came to the forum to confront Mr. Kerry, in part because of lingering bitterness from the Vietnam era, when as a West Point cadet he was spat on, he said, by antiwar protesters.

As many in the crowd shouted at Mr. Brown to "shut up," Mr. Kerry, a veteran of both the Vietnam War and the protests against it, calmly promised to answer all queries, no matter the tone. Then he turned the tables.

"Are you a Democrat or a Republican — what are you?" he asked. "You answer the question."

After Mr. Brown said he voted for Mr. Bush in 2000, Mr. Kerry added: "See? Democracy works both ways."



TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; commiesforkerry; endorsements; kerry; kerrylies; unfit
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Oh I wished he had said, I am an American (like some smart folks on this thread have suggested) or he should have said it doesn't matter or that he was an independent. I hate Kerry, Mr. Brown could have really stuck it to Kerry by not making his party ID known.

Imagine if Bush had dismissed a question just because a Democrat asked. And Kerry has the nerve to suggest he would not divide the country-- it's clear, if you are a Republican you don't merit a response. Kerry is total scum and the media let him do what ever the Hell he wants.
61 posted on 03/14/2004 10:35:32 PM PST by faithincowboys ( Zell Miller is the only DC Democrat not committing treason.)
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To: Boundless
I have difficulty accepting the premise that the Clintons or any "THEY" have enough power to pick the presidential candidate. I remember the flame wars four years ago with the supporters of vanity candidates who claimed it was unfair that "THEY" had handpicked Bush to be coroneted. Just can't find the missing link that allows the "THEY" control the hand of the voter in the booth as he mis-punches his chads.
62 posted on 03/14/2004 10:43:01 PM PST by bayourod ( Bush is not the "war" president, he is the "warrior" president.)
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To: bayourod
The only real lever the Clintons have is in fund raising and organization. That is a very big lever though.
63 posted on 03/14/2004 10:44:59 PM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This is starting to get some traction. Here is a Reuters article on the same subject: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097810/posts
64 posted on 03/14/2004 11:00:14 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Kerry is appearing more unstable than ever and approaching Dean proportions. One more question about this from an audience and he's sure to blow up ... having to explain who the leaders are he holds imaginary conversations with reveals Hanoi John Kerry & Teresa are bordering psychopaths.
65 posted on 03/14/2004 11:32:05 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: hobson
<<"See? Democracy works both ways."
<<What is that suppose to mean?

Thank you - read that line 3 times and was wondering why I didn't "get it". Glad to know I'm in good company. :o)
66 posted on 03/14/2004 11:46:44 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
You know ... you just have to chuckle ... the more John Kerry drones on ... the more the undecided voters of America get to see him for what he is: A butt-ugly, self-unaware yet self-involved, fussy poodle of a man.

Keep it up Dukak ... er, I mean, Kerry.

67 posted on 03/15/2004 12:20:47 AM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo (Proud Member of the Republican Attack Squad)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This is a pretty devastating article. We have Kerry say this: "I think the quote, the quote in the comment I made publicly, I believe, was that I `heard from,' that's the direct quote," Mr. Kerry said. "I've likewise had meetings. I've also had conversations. I said I've heard from, that was what I believe I said."

Then the Times shows his original quote, which is significantly different from what he's claiming now:

"I've met foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly, but boy, they look at you and say, `You gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy, we need a new policy,' things like that," Mr. Kerry said, according to a transcript from a reporter who attended the session.

"Heard from" and "met" are two very different things, of course. Not to mention saying that "they look at you", which implies face-to-face meetings.

68 posted on 03/15/2004 1:19:05 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Spotsy
I can't believe how many Kerry bumperstickers are showing up on cars in my red state.

Really? I'm in New York City, and I haven't seen one yet.

69 posted on 03/15/2004 1:20:33 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: bayourod
"Mr. Kerry added: "See? Democracy works both ways." "

It means that Kerry has the emotional maturity of a teenage girl.

Neener, neener, neener! I know you are, but what am I?

Cash & Kerry has about as much gravitas as Pee Wee Herman.

70 posted on 03/15/2004 1:41:07 AM PST by lorrainer (Professional driver. Closed course.)
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To: NYCVirago
I can't believe how many Kerry bumperstickers are showing up on cars in my red state.

Really? I'm in New York City, and I haven't seen one yet.

I saw 3 bumperstickers in my one-mile drive to the grocery store. The first one I spotted literally made me cringe.

The stickers were on nice cars in a nice neighborhood. Go figure.

71 posted on 03/15/2004 5:09:08 AM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Boundless
Would the Dems have a big internal problem (Clinton revolt) if the Designated Loser theory is true, and the rank & file finally figure it out?

The rank and file Dems will never be turned off by Hillary's scheming - her media henchmen will see to that.

Hillary's conniving has been public knowledge for so many years - and no one does anything about it.

72 posted on 03/15/2004 5:14:35 AM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Kerry lies


73 posted on 03/15/2004 5:18:02 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It was the second time in recent days that stray comments by Mr. Kerry diverted attention from his themes of creating jobs and providing health insurance.

Oh, the frustration of the NY Times reporter as poor Mr. Kerry is hounded about this matter and gets off his "theme".

I can't wait for the NY Times to demand Mr. Kerry fill in his "theme" with a "plan" including "particulars".

Mr. Brown did a good thing. Another citizen demands of the candidate an answer. Remember the fellow that Dean yelled at to "Sit down! You've had your say".

74 posted on 03/15/2004 5:22:04 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Travis McGee
Mr. Brown, I salute you!

That makes two of us!

75 posted on 03/15/2004 5:24:26 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I saw the incident with Mr. Brown; did anyone else notice the way mr. ketsup-boy, changed the tables? Also the so-called liers slip, I believe it to be a froidian[sp] slip. He was trying to say the demo-rats are the liers and not the republicats. Yes, I believe both parties are very much a like. They both stiffel any chance of a 3rd party gaining a voice in the system!
76 posted on 03/15/2004 5:25:52 AM PST by TMSuchman (Vote like a lemming, vote demoRAT!)
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To: Spotsy
You would see more Bush bumper stickers, but I think a lot of people are worried about having their cars vandalized.
77 posted on 03/15/2004 5:30:36 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Bush kills terrorists. Clinton pardons them. John Al-Qerry will apologize to them.)
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To: rllngrk33

Sounds like the NYT is doing its best to help JF'nK self-destruct by giving readers his unintelligible quote verbatim. They have another candidate in mind for the dems. I wonder who....
78 posted on 03/15/2004 5:31:36 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Boundless
If Kerry wins, the Clintons lose.

Liberal women should reject Kerry if they want to keep alive their dream of having Hillary as president.

A vote for Ralph Nader would signal their dissatisfaction.

79 posted on 03/15/2004 6:17:25 AM PST by OESY
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Big bump for Cedric Brown and the US Army.
80 posted on 03/15/2004 6:20:07 AM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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