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On abortion, a Jewish compromise
Jerusalem Post ^ | 3.14.04 | IRWIN N. GRAULICH

Posted on 03/14/2004 1:02:27 AM PST by ambrose

On abortion, a Jewish compromise



If you are looking for a good compromise on the difficult question of abortion, don't look to Roe v. Wade but to Israel. There is only one intelligent, just, ethical position on abortion and it happens to be the Torah viewpoint.
Unfortunately, over 95 percent of Jews and non-Jews are totally ignorant of it.

Scholars on the Left will attest that the Bible, Israeli law and the US Constitution are definitely pro-choice and protect a mother's health. Those equally learned on the Right will swear that these same great documents uphold the pro-life position and protect children.

How can so many knowledgeable people totally contradict each other? In reality, the same Bible both sides cite contains a sensible, compassionate solution that contradicts the standard pro-choice and pro-life positions.

Most people seem to think there are only two sides. The pro-choice position says that a woman can do whatever she wants with her body. This includes ear piercings, haircuts, face lifts, rhinoplasty, wart/hair removal, and fetus removal. In this view, the status of the unborn fetus is like that of skin, hair or excess cartilage.
This is the logic of the pro-choice position, but even those who hold it, except perhaps die-hard activists, would not truly place a fetus and a wart in the same category.

The pro-choice side must ask itself, is destroying an unborn fetus the moral equivalent of cosmetic surgery or a haircut?

The pro-life position holds that a fetus is a full life, so destroying it is murder. Staunch pro-lifers consider abortion the equivalent to the horrific crimes of Charles Manson, Palestinian suicide bombers, and even the Nazis. Some right-wing religious zealots have even coined the phrase "Silent Holocaust" to describe their horror.

This position places pro-lifers into an even more difficult and frightening category. If they are sincere, they are knowingly permitting mass murder to occur on a daily basis, and are possible accomplices to murder.

IMAGINE IF someone were to go into nursery schools daily to murder 20 children, simply because the parents are having financial difficulties due to the burden of child-raising. There is not a decent person anywhere who would not attempt to physically intervene, even at the risk of their own lives.

The fact that there are so few attempts on the lives of abortion doctors proves that the pro-life crowd is intellectually dishonest and does not truly believe its own rhetoric.

But if abortion is neither cosmetic nor murder, then what is it?

Exodus (21: 22-23) states, "If men shall fight, and they collide with a pregnant woman, and she miscarries, but the woman lives, the punishment on the men is financial, as determined by judges. But if the woman dies, there should be capital punishment."

These verses clearly illustrate that the fetus is not a full life. If it were, capital punishment would be called for, as mentioned in the second sentence. We are also shown that the fetus is not a worthless piece of tissue, since financial remuneration is required by the offenders. In addition, there are later references to the health of the mother taking precedence to the life of the fetus.

This biblical approach is the Jewish position, and it is equidistant between the pro-choice and pro-life stances. It states that abortion is not murder ? and not nothing! The only way to enforce this compromise is to allow an immoral act, while at the same time to discourage it strongly, which is exactly what is done in Israel in the majority of cases.

The Jewish biblical position is to create a meaningful societal stigma, so that anyone involved in an abortion knows there are grave moral consequences; that if you have an abortion, you are eliminating potential life and there may be guilt for a very long time.

The Torah's position is that a society which has few or no abortions is a more moral nation. It is good to finally see that Israel is following Torah for guidance on an issue, unlike capital punishment, where Jewish law seems to be ignored.

Our own rhetoric should teach us something. When a pregnant mother feels movement or kicking, she announces, "The baby is kicking." Has any woman in the history of humanity said, "The fetus is kicking"? Yet when a woman wishes to get rid of it, we always use the terminology of "removing the fetus."

A majority of religious and secular people seem to want abortion to be legal, yet do not want to simply "dispose" of developing life. Abortion presents all of us, religious and secular, with a tragic moral choice. Though it is tempting to legislate morality, this is not always the answer, as the case of adultery would seem to prove.

There are very few people, if any, who are pro-adultery; yet no one would seriously consider putting a law on the books prohibiting it. What we prefer is to create a moral society where great religious values produce a powerful stigma against violating the marital bond.

The law should not, by itself, prevent abortion from becoming a form of birth control. Non-legal means should also be considered, such as creating a fund to pay women not to have an abortion but put the baby up for adoption. There are millions of infertile couples who would cherish the gift of a baby.

Can such a system be abused by baby trafficking? Of course ? like anything else in life, and such a system must therefore be carefully monitored.

Abortion is not exclusively a women's rights issue. The Torah understood this and regarded it as an important religious matter. Let us all listen to the Torah's wise compromise rather than fight over morally untenable extremes.

The writer is president of Bloch Graulich Whelan, a communications company in New York City (irwin.graulich@verizon.net).



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To: thoughtomator
The Jewish attitude about a fetus is vague. There are some provisions that treat a fetus as a living person, but in the case of a stillbirth or a miscarriage the fetus is regarded as never having lived and therefore a number of religious laws and rituals applicable to a baby who died after drawing a breath are not applicable.
21 posted on 03/14/2004 4:05:13 AM PST by DonQ
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To: DonQ
"The Jewish attitude about a fetus is vague."


Would you please explain what this means. I think the Torah is very clear.
22 posted on 03/14/2004 4:07:39 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: AMDG&BVMH

History's Great Mass Murderer's


Hitler: 10 million


Stalin: 30 million


Mao: 40 million


Blackmun: 45 million - and counting!!!


23 posted on 03/14/2004 4:48:40 AM PST by reg45
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To: reg45
good post
24 posted on 03/14/2004 5:46:58 AM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH
Reg45 has it right. The Mr. Graulich is suggesting the Torah holds that the only valid response for an individual who objects to murder is to become a murderer oneself. Somehow, I find that conclusion more than a little suspect. Mr. Graulich leaves the impression of being more of a sophist than a Talmudic scholar.
25 posted on 03/14/2004 5:57:20 AM PST by NHResident
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To: thoughtomator
Exodus 21:22 means that if the fetus dies, there should be only monetary liability; but if the woman dies, it is capital murder.

Both you and the author of the JPost piece are being disingenuous. He makes up his own Biblical quote and you make up your own interpretation.

The Talmudic interpretation, which clearly flies in the face of the text or the Torah, is that everything referred to in Ex 21:22, including the death of the mother is to be salved with financial compensation.

Of course, all of this is besides the point. The issue is whether abortion is permissible or not; not what the punishment should be after the fact.

Nachum Ansel discusses abortion in The Jewish Encyclopedia of Moral and Ethical Issues. You should read this. The bottom line is that abortion is permissible only to save the life of the mother. Ansel references Mishna Ohalot 7:6, which I've read but remember thinking it unclear.

What is not unclear is that Rebecca had the most difficult pregnancy in the Bible. She had twins (habanim=boys) struggling in her womb. The twins continued this struggle throughout their lives, not even interrupting it for their birth. Clearly Jacob and Esau's lives began before their birth. During one of those early womb struggles Rebecca went to inquire of G-d. G-d did not give Rebecca a choice.

ML/NJ

26 posted on 03/14/2004 6:02:14 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
"The bottom line is that abortion is permissible only to save the life of the mother"

Thanks for the clarification.
27 posted on 03/14/2004 6:05:33 AM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: ambrose; jocon307; thoughtomator; Shermy; ppaul; rmlew; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; goldstategop; ...
The Bible has a lot to say about the shedding of innocent blood and none of it good. What blood could be more innocent than that of an unborn totally helpless innocent baby.

I believe any Judge,Democrat Liberal or whatever who
is in favor of abortion should be forced to witness
the Partial Birth Abortion of their one and only grandchild.
28 posted on 03/14/2004 6:23:04 AM PST by WKB (3!~ Term Limits: Because politicians are like diapers., need to be changed for the same reason.)
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To: WKB
re: "The Bible has a lot to say about the shedding of innocent blood and none of it good. What blood could be more innocent than that of an unborn totally helpless innocent baby."


I guess the holey koran is different, huh?
29 posted on 03/14/2004 6:59:39 AM PST by RonHolzwarth
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To: ml/nj
I'm not being disingenuous... you repeated the same thing I said about it.
30 posted on 03/14/2004 7:52:57 AM PST by thoughtomator (All I ever wanted to know about Islam I learned on 9/11)
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To: ambrose
It is good to finally see that Israel is following Torah for guidance on an issue, unlike capital punishment, where Jewish law seems to be ignored. <<

What evidence is there that Israeli is following the Torah position? Israel largely allows abortion on demand. People have to apply for an abortion but it is granted in over 95% of cases. There is no reason to say that Israel is following the Torah on abortion.

31 posted on 03/14/2004 8:03:20 AM PST by Honestfreedom
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To: thoughtomator
I'm not being disingenuous... you repeated the same thing I said about it.

You said:

Exodus 21:22 means that if the fetus dies, there should be only monetary liability; but if the woman dies, it is capital murder.
from which I inferred that you thought there was a stronger penalty for killing the mother than the baby, and so killing the baby was not as bad as killing the mother. I think Jewish law views such killing equally.

ML/NJ

32 posted on 03/14/2004 8:08:53 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
There was... in the specific circumstances of Exodus. In Leviticus, the same line is repeated, without the reference to the pregnant woman. In Exodus, there is a stronger penalty for killing the woman than killing the fetus; in Leviticus no mention of this is made, although the same law absent that provision is clearly repeated. The context of the passage is also clear that in the Exodus case, the miscarriage is accidental, not purposely induced like abortion. It being accidental, the Exodus passage cannot possibly refer to deliberately causing a miscarriage.
33 posted on 03/14/2004 8:18:01 AM PST by thoughtomator (All I ever wanted to know about Islam I learned on 9/11)
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To: ml/nj
The bottom line is that abortion is permissible only to save the life of the mother.

Yep, everything else is sin.

34 posted on 03/14/2004 8:21:25 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: ambrose
The Torah, or specific parts of the Bible that make up the "Torah: are clear than abortion is WRONG. Homosexuality is wrong etc.. but how many Jews actually read the Torah with comprehension? Hardly any otherwise they wouldn't be voting or legally defending abortion or homosexuality.

Ever look at the last names of those defending this evil? You should. Look at who leads the charges on the A.C.L.U. cases against others like the Salvation Army. Most are atheists.

While they don't have a monopoly on endorsing evil, they certainly do their fair share. This is not "Jew bashing" but I know some may insist it is because ANY criticism or facts that disagree with their imaginary world are labeled such. What's worse is some "Christians" practically worship Jews since at one time they WERE the "chosen people" before Christ came and died for all of us. Belief is required of Jews as well as Gentiles for eternal life in the right place.
35 posted on 03/14/2004 8:28:45 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: DonQ
There is nothing "vague" about where the Torah stands on abortion. Hair splitting here is ridiculous, Herr Clintone.
36 posted on 03/14/2004 8:30:09 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ambrose
While ambiguity exists on the general question of abortion, Jewish law appears to be absolute on the question of partial birth abortion. From "The Fetus and Fertility in Jewish Law", edited by Rabbi Walter Jacob and Moshe Zerner, Rodef Shalom Press, Pittsburgh (1995)... "The second source on the nature of the fetus is found in the Mishnah, which stated that it is permissible to kill a fetus if a woman's life is endangered by it during the process of giving birth. However, if a greater part of the fetus had emerged, or if the head had emerged, then the fetus posesses the status of a person and can not be dismembered, as one may not take one life in order to save another (M. Ohalot 7.6)"
37 posted on 03/14/2004 8:39:06 AM PST by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: nmh
I do think the author has a point though on the rhetoric. If you genuinely believed there was zero moral difference between an abortionist performing 20 abortions, and a person killing 20 toddlers at a day care center, you wouldn't just picket the day care center, you would act. The fact that we don't act in the same manner leads me to believe that deep down we know that it is evil, but not the same evil.

It is the difference between going 50 mph through a school zone, and 150. Both acts are absolutely heinous and should be stopped, however, we treat them a bit differently in our minds. I apologize for this analogy that in no way addresses the moral seriousness of this issue, but I think it is apt.

I am opposed to abortion, yet to be intellectually honest, if there were two abortions being performed and one 5 year old about to be killed and I could only get to one place on time to prevent it, I know in my heart that I would save the 5 year old.

38 posted on 03/14/2004 8:39:47 AM PST by dogbyte12
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To: RonHolzwarth
I guess the holey koran is different, huh?



Have no idea never read it don't intend to
39 posted on 03/14/2004 8:46:04 AM PST by WKB (3!~ Term Limits: Because politicians are like diapers., need to be changed for the same reason.)
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To: DonQ
Isn't Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun, Jewish?

Look at his legacy of evil:

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/blackmun/

40 posted on 03/14/2004 8:51:57 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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