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Kerry was negotiating with the enemy. He recommended that we immediately accept the enemies terms.

What a surprise!

1 posted on 03/06/2004 12:21:16 AM PST by Hon
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136 posted on 03/06/2004 10:09:38 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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137 posted on 03/06/2004 10:16:09 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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140 posted on 03/06/2004 10:32:16 AM PST by SAMWolf (Wedding: A funeral where you get to smell your own flowers.)
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To: Hon
John Kerry: The Chameleon Senator
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
October-December 1996 Issue

Despite the prayers and wishful thinking of POW/MIA families and Vietnam veteran activists, Sen. John Forbes Kerry, the "chameleon" senator from Massachusetts, was re-elected to the Senate in the
1996 election. Apparently Kerry's well publicized history as a longtime radical supporter of the Vietnamese communists and a recent flap about whether or not he is guilty of a war crime meant very little to the voters in Massachusetts.

Sen. Kerry, the "noble statesman" and "highly decorated Vietnam vet" of today, is a far cry from Kerry, the radical, hippie-like leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in the early 1970s. After Kerry, as a Navy Lieutenant (junior grade) commanding a Swift boat in Vietnam, was awarded the
Silver he found it advantageous to quit the Navy, change the color of his politics and become a leader of VVAW. He went to work organizing opposition in America against the efforts of his former buddies still ducking communist bullets back in Vietnam. Kerry gained national attention in April 1971, when he testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, then chaired by Sen. J. William Fulbright (D-AR), who led opposition in the Congress against U.S. participation in the war. During the course of his testimony, Kerry stated that the United States had a definite obligation to make extensive economic reparations to the people of Vietnam.

Kerry's testimony, it should be noted, occurred while some of his fellow Vietnam veterans were known by the world to be enduring terrible suffering as prisoners of war in North Vietnamese prisons. Kerry was a supporter of the "People's Peace Treaty," a supposed "people's" declaration to end the war, reportedly drawn up in communist East Germany. It included nine points, all of which were taken from Viet Cong peace proposals at the Paris peace talks as conditions for ending the war.

One of the provisions stated: "The Vietnamese pledge that as soon as the U.S. government publicly sets a date for total withdrawal [from Vietnam], they will enter discussion to secure the release of all American prisoners, including pilots captured while bombing North Vietnam." In other words, Kerry and his VVAW advocated the communist line to withdraw all U.S. troops from Vietnam first and then negotiate with Hanoi over the release of prisoners. Had the nine points of the "People's Peace Treaty" favored by Kerry been accepted by American negotiators, the United States would have totally lost all leverage to get the communists to release any POWs captured during the war years.

Kerry was fundamental in organizing antiwar activists to demonstrate in Washington, including the splattering of red paint, representing blood, on the Capitol steps. Several hundred of Kerry's VVAW demonstrators and supporters were allowed by Fulbright to jam into a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing in 1972 and to chant "Right on, brother!" as Sen. George McGovern (D-SD), then the only declared Democratic presidential candidate, accused U.S. troops of committing barbarisms in Vietnam.

Kerry became even more of a press celebrity during a highly publicized "anti-war" protest when he threw medals the press reported were his over a barricade and onto the steps of the Capitol. Kerry never mentioned that the medals he so gloriously tossed were not his own. The 1988 issue of Current Biography Yearbook explained: " . . . the ones he had discarded were not his own but had belonged to another veteran who asked him to make the gesture for him. When a 'Washington Post' reporter asked Kerry about the incident, he said: 'They're my medals. I'll do what I want with them. And there shouldn't be any expectations about them.'" Kerry's medals have reappeared, today hanging in his Senate office, now that it is "politically correct" for a U.S. Senator to be portrayed as a Vietnam War hero. Alas, so much for integrity.

Recently, Kerry became extremely defensive when David Warsh, an economics columnist for The Boston Globe, questioned the circumstances for which Kerry was awarded the Silver Star. Kerry, who was in a close re-election battle with Gov. William F. Weld, a Republican, quickly gathered his former crew from his Swift boat days to rebuff the "assault on his integrity."

According to the official citation accompanying the Silver Star for Kerry's actions on the waters of the Mekong Delta on February 28, 1969: "Kerry's craft received a B-40 rocket close aboard. Once again Lieutenant (j.g.) Kerry ordered his units to charge the enemy positions. . . Patrol Craft Fast 94 then
beached in the center of the enemy positions and an enemy soldier sprang up from his position not ten feet from Patrol Craft 94 and fled. Without hesitation Lieutenant (j.g.) Kerry leaped ashore, pursued the man behind a hootch and killed him, capturing a B-40 rocket launcher with a round in the chamber." In an article printed in the October 21st and 28th 1996 edition of The New Yorker, Kerry was asked about the man he had killed.

"It was either going to be him or it was going to be us. It was that simple. I don't know why it wasn't us--I mean, to this day. He had a rocket pointed right at our boat. He stood up out of the hole, and none of us saw him until he was standing in front of us, aiming a rocket right at us, and, for whatever reason, he didn't pull the trigger--he turned and ran. He was shocked to see our boat right in front of him. If he'd pulled the trigger, we'd all be dead . . . I just won't talk about all of it. I don't and I can't. The things that probably really turn me I've never told anybody. Nobody would understand," Kerry said. In the column, Warsh quoted the Swift boat's former gunner, Tom Belodeau, as saying the Viet Cong soldier who Kerry chased "behind a hootch" and "finished off" actually had already been wounded by the gunner.

Warsh wrote that such a "coup de grace" would have been considered a war crime. Belodeau stood beside Kerry and said he'd been misquoted. He conceded that he had fired at and wounded the Viet Cong, but denied Kerry had simply executed the wounded Viet Cong. Dan Carr, a former Marine from Massachusetts, who served 14 months as a rifleman sloshing around in the humid jungles of I Corps, South Vietnam, questioned whether or not Kerry deserved a Silver Star for chasing and killing a lone, wounded, retreating Viet Cong. "Kerry is certainly showing some sensitivity there. Most people I knew in Vietnam were just trying to pull their time there and get the hell out. There were some, though, who actually used Vietnam to get their tickets punched. You know, to build their resumes for future endeavors," Carr said.

In 1991, the United States Senate created the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs to examine the possibility that U.S. POW/MIAs might still be held by the Vietnamese. As chairman of the Select Committee, Kerry proved himself to be a masterful chameleon portraying to the public at large what appeared to be an unbiased approach to resolving the POW/MIA issue. But, in reality, no one in the United States Senate pushed harder to bury the POW/MIA issue, the last obstacle preventing normalization of relations with Hanoi, than John Forbes Kerry. (Remember the middle name "Forbes").

In fact, his first act as chairman was to travel to Southeast Asia, where during a stopover in Bangkok, Thailand, he lectured the U.S. Chamber of Commerce there on the importance of lifting the trade embargo and normalizing relations with Vietnam. During the entire life of the Senate Select Committee, Kerry never missed a chance to propaganderize and distort the facts in favor of Hanoi.

Sydney H. Schanberg, associate editor and columnist for New York Newsday and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist veteran of the Indochina War whose book, The Death and Life of Dith Pran, became the subject of the Academy Award-winning film The Killing Fields, chronicled some of Kerry's more blatant pro-Hanoi biases in several of his columns.

In a Nov. 21, 1993 column, Schanberg wrote, "Highly credible information has been surfacing in recent days which indicates that the headlines you have been reading about a 'breakthrough' in Hanoi's cooperation on the POW/MIA issue are part of a carefully scripted performance. The apparent purpose is to move toward normalization of relations with Hanoi.

"Sen. John F. Kerry, chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, is one of the key figures pushing for normalization. Kerry is currently on a visit to Vietnam where he has been doing two
things: (1) praising the Vietnamese effusively for granting access to their war archives and (2) telling the press that there's no believable evidence to back up the stories of live POWs still being held.
"Ironically, that very kind of live-POW evidence has been brought to Kerry's own committee on a regular basis over the past year, and he has repeatedly sought to impeach its value. Moreover, Kerry and his allies on the committee - such as Sens. John McCain, Nancy Kassebaum and Tom Daschle - have worked to block much of this evidence from being made public."

In December of 1992, not long after Kerry was quoted in the world press stating "President Bush should reward Vietnam within a month for its increased cooperation in accounting for American MIAs," Vietnam announced it had granted Colliers International, based in Boston, Massachusetts, a contract worth billions
designating Colliers International as the exclusive real estate agent representing Vietnam.

That deal alone put Colliers in a position to make tens of millions of dollars on the rush to upgrade Vietnam's ports, railroads, highways, government buildings, etc. C. Stewart Forbes, Chief Executive Officer of Colliers International, is Kerry's cousin. Kerry was portrayed in The New Yorker as a proud
Vietnam veteran and "war hero" who, as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, dared to take on and defeat the "mendacious POW lobby."

In its 1993 final report, the Select Committee determined that live U.S. prisoners of war were left behind in the hands of the Vietnamese after the end of the war. The committee also claimed it found no "compelling" evidence proving the POWs remain alive today. Kerry's committee stopped there without answering three of the most profound questions of the entire Senate POW/MIA investigation: What happened to those U.S. prisoners of war who the Select Committee said were alive and in the hands of the Vietnamese but not released at the end of the war? If they are dead, where are their remains? Who is responsible for their deaths?

No doubt most of the Establishment press will continue to obscure from the public and themselves the raw truth about Kerry, the communist Vietnamese and the POW/MIA issue because it is politically convenient. There is also no doubt the POW/MIA families and Vietnam veteran activists know the truth and recognize Kerry for what he truly is--a traitor, hypocrite, liar and chameleon.
141 posted on 03/06/2004 10:37:41 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Hon
Excellent find!


145 posted on 03/06/2004 12:14:07 PM PST by FairOpinion ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." --- G. W. Bush)
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"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned.

"I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that."

Thus, in 1971, John Effin' Kerry assured the United States Congress that any and all POWs would be returned by NVN and the VC. No "insurance" was required.

In 1993, this same Kerry, now a U.S. Senator investigating whether any POWs were still being held in custody, took steps to shred any and all evidence of their existence.

This explains the Senator's actions -- the Senator is covering up for the Lt JG.

150 posted on 03/06/2004 1:23:48 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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whoa.
and he was not tried for treason?
and he was not hanged for treason?
and he is yet a senator, no less?
151 posted on 03/06/2004 2:12:29 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: Hon
This is strong evidence Kerry was a traitor in 1971.
153 posted on 03/06/2004 2:38:04 PM PST by ex-Texan
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This piece of trash was meeting with the VC, while our slodiers were dying in the jungles of VN. ANY veteran that would stand up with or for this slug should be ashamed of himself.
154 posted on 03/06/2004 2:40:31 PM PST by marty60
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bttt

I've been hoping to find a source for that '71 Paris meeting. Great job.
155 posted on 03/06/2004 2:41:46 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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You note Kerry's appearance on April 22, 1971. On May 4, Kerry was in New York City to appear in a Bryant Park demonstration along with anti-war senator Vance Hartke and left wing union reps David Livingston and Victor Gotbaum. I wonder if that speech was reported in the NYTimes or elsewhere?
159 posted on 03/06/2004 3:06:11 PM PST by gaspar
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More evidence that Kerry is a traitor...show it to your boys.
164 posted on 03/06/2004 3:52:59 PM PST by mystery-ak (*The cause of freedom is in good hands*....you betcha, Mr. President!)
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Is Kerry a communist?
169 posted on 03/06/2004 5:39:29 PM PST by dalebert
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Kerry was negotiating with the enemy. He recommended that we immediately accept the enemies terms.

Just when I though Kerry's record couldn't get any worse.....

182 posted on 03/06/2004 8:20:02 PM PST by Jorge
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Kerry is no more electable than Senator Byrd, something that the Democrats are determined learn the hard way.
185 posted on 03/07/2004 1:09:03 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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As I said in this post a while back, it is not time to set the Vietnam War aside.

The real accounting has barely begun and Kerry's nomination could well be the catalyst for a national reappraisal that will expose the dominant pop-culture/lefty/academic version of Vietnam for the murderous lie it is.

Millions died or spent their lives in slavery because of these traitors, they should be held to account.

187 posted on 03/07/2004 1:50:29 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Know the enemy, the Hollywood/Madison Avenue Cultural Axis.)
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Just found this great tidbit!!!

At the time the Kerry went to Paris (and all of his time as a protestor!!), he was still an officer in the Navy Reserves!!!

He was discharged from the Naval Reserves on Feb 16 1978!!!

source http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/timeline.htm

Now, what I would like to know, was that "inactive" reserves, or was he required to attend drills? If so, did he??
188 posted on 03/07/2004 2:24:12 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate
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When I look in the face of John Kerry,all I can see is evil. He has the look of satan & pure hatred in his eyes. It is beyond my belief that anyone could support such a person to be the President of our Country & the Commander in Chief of our military. What kind of generation are we raising that would vote for a traitor to be the leader of our Country? I cannot believe that we have sank so low that people would give their vote to Kerry. I am completely shocked in this generation.Where is the decency, & loyalty to America? We have a decent President I hope & pray that he is re-elected. He has restored intgrity & honor to the White House after eight years of Clinton, we need all the help we can get sooo let's keep President G.W. Bush!!!!!!
189 posted on 03/07/2004 2:57:36 AM PST by memaw (evil)
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To: Hon
Big Bush Bump
194 posted on 03/07/2004 12:58:18 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Hon; nutmeg
Good catch, Hon!

Thanks for the flag, nutmeg.
197 posted on 03/07/2004 5:20:09 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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