Teresa Heinz Kerry, Drummond Pike and the Communist TIDES FOUNDATION

Capital Research ^ | 03.04.04

[Coleus]

Money. Money is to the Tides Foundation and Center what water is to the tide. You can’t be sure from what source any part comes. You can’t be sure where any part goes. But it can knock you off your feet and pull you down. And there is an ocean of it. 

The Tides Foundation and its offspring, the Tides Center, effectively “launder” donor dollars when they give to other nonprofits. The San Francisco-based Foundation receives donations from individuals and foundations and then channels them to activist groups. The result is that the original donor can’t be linked to the ultimate recipient. According to the most recent available IRS form 990, the Tides Foundation received $86.1 million in grants, gifts and other contributions in 2001. It gave away over $76 million. Since it was established in 1976, the Foundation has given away over $300 million in grants. (Total 2001 income was $93.2 million; the Foundation had assets of more than $156 million.) 

The Tides Center, established in 1979, has been legally separate from the Foundation since 1996. It helps manage the legal, accounting and other administrative aspects of start-up political advocacy “projects.” In effect, it shelters activists and their fledgling organizations under the umbrella of its own nonprofit tax-exempt status. 

In theory, the Foundation raises and grants money, while the Center manages projects and organizations. A legal firewall divides the two organizations and keeps their functions separate. In fact, each does both. The Foundation awards grants to groups, including groups not managed by the Center, that are promoting a kaleidoscope of liberal issues. 

· environmental extremism
· exclusion of humans from
  public and private wildlands
· anti-war protest
· opposition to free trade
· banning firearms ownership
· abolition of the death penalty
· abortion rights
· gay, lesbian, bisexual and
  transgender advocacy 

As the epicenter of a large financial operation that collects and disperses millions of dollars to left-wing activist groups, the Tides Foundation and Tides Center are uniquely influential within the liberal movement.  Many policy projects established by the Foundation and managed by the Center are eventually spun-off as independent nonprofit organizations. In addition, Tides founder Drummond Pike has set up several for-profit companies. They donate a percentage of their profits to Tides and collaborate with Tides-affiliated nonprofits. 

Here are a few notable nonprofits started, managed or funded by Tides: the Natural Resources Defense Council, Greenpeace, Union of Concerned Scientists, Environmental Working Group and the Ruckus Society. The Tides Foundation continues to fund many of these groups, which are in the forefront of left-wing activism. 

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Organization(s) featured in this item

Environmental Working Group
Friends of the Earth
Greenpeace Fund
Natural Resources Defense Council
Tides Foundation
Tides Center
Union of Concerned Scientists
Wilderness Society
Vira I. Heinz Endowment

Drummond Pike, President
Direct dial: 415.561.6361; email: president@tides.org

Drummond Pike

 

Teresa Heinz and the Tides Foundation

[Carry_Okie]

Here is the book. The "articles" have been here at FR.

None of which changes the fact that the information you posted was wrong.

[Coleus]

The information was from a group called capital research (the link was posted), I suggest you write to them and prove them wrong. And please post their response.

You show no evidence at all, no 990's nothing, refuting the claim that the tides foundation does not "fund" and of these organizations and I saw no references in your book (only 7 hits to the word foundation) backing up what you said regarding that the tides foundation does not "contribute" to the aforementioned foundations and NGO's.

I'm sorry you are wrong and offered no proof.

[Coleus]

Kerry's wife funds
critics of Bush ads  
Non-profit group behind 9/11 families
tied to Heinz charitable contributions

[sandlady]

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[Carry_Okie]

You show no evidence at all, no 990's nothing, refuting the claim that the tides foundation does not "fund" and of these organizations and I saw no references in your book (only 7 hits to the word foundation) backing up what you said regarding that the tides foundation does not "contribute" to the aforementioned foundations and NGO's.

Nice dodge, but it won't work. Here is what you posted:

"Here are a few notable nonprofits started, managed or funded by Tides":

"Started, managed, or funded by," clearly implies that Tides supposedly played a seminal role in the startup, operation, and funding of the listed organizations. They didn't. A good many of those organizations existed before Tides was even founded. Sure Tides launders money from their contributors (primarily Pew) and I never said that they didn't, but Tides isn't a critical source for any but the EWG and the Ruckus Society and even then they primarily launder money from donors not wishing to be directly associated with the recipients.

So you come back saying that I hadn't proven that Tides hadn't made donations, when that doesn't address what I had said in response to your post! Your response lacks integrity.

As far as sources refuting your contentions are concerned, here is what Drummond Pike says about their history;

By the end of 1981, Tides Foundation stepped into full independence and rented offices with Lyman Casey's Bothin Helping Fund - all 1.75 FTEs of us.

So here we have what you tell us was a foundation capable of helping GreenPIECE or the NRDC get started when it didn't even have TWO full time employees until the 1980s.

I already posted an example, with a link for you about the NRDC that you clearly didn't read in its entirety. That post lists the top sources of NRDC funding over the last ten years (with a source link). Tides isn't even in the top thirty of the list of NRDC's contributors.

Here is ,a href="http://www.nrdc.org/media/default.asp">what the NRDC says about their origins at the bottom of every single press release they publish:

The Natural Resources Defense Council is a national, nonprofit organization of scientists, lawyers and environmental specialists dedicated to protecting public health and the environment. Founded in 1970, NRDC has more than 1 million members and e-activists nationwide, served from offices in New York, Washington, Santa Monica and San Francisco.

As for GreenPIECE you can simply go to their site, thusly. It says:

In fact, the nuclear weapons threat is what prompted the international organization to be founded in 1971.

I'm not going to bother doing any more of your homework on the rest of those organizations for you when the facts are that easy to find.

My book only references Tides in terms of their participation in the coho listing on the West Coast as proof that I have been writing about them for some time. It doesn't go into their funding. If you don't think I've been writing about Tides for some time, or that I am a credible source, ask Grampa Dave; sauropod; farmfriend; sasquatch; forester; marsh2...

[farmfriend]

Give it up, Carry_Okie is one of the most informed people I know. His research is impeccable.

[sandlady]

I suggest everyone click on your link and read the section titled, "Foundations Wash Cash Through Tides." If it weren't in Acrobat format I would cut and paste.

Also, in the section titled, "Funding Anti-war Groups," the article states that the Tides Foundation provides funds to Moveon.org and other such groups.

Another note: The Tides Center manages The Youth Gender Project whose purpose is to empower and support transgender and gender variant, inter-sexed and gender-questioning youth and young adults. It focuses on persons who work with or make decisions about the lives of young people, ie teachers, youth leaders and parents. It's based in Berkeley.

Hmm. No bias here.

[wewillnotfail]

btt

[sandlady]

My take on this post is that Tides is obviously laundering money for liberal causes and actively supporting the anti-Bush policy lobby. The link between Tides, Kerry and Peaceful Tomorrows (whose members have been all over the news shows) should at least be acknowledged. I, for one don't believe the majority of family members of the 9/11 victims are offended by the new Bush ads.

[Coleus]

So you come back saying that I hadn't proven that Tides hadn't made donations, when that doesn't address what I had said in response to your post! Your response lacks integrity. >>>

are you pinging your cheerleading squad?

In post 19 you tried to refute the capital research center's statement in post 1, here it is:

Here are a few notable nonprofits started, managed or funded by Tides: the Natural Resources Defense Council, Greenpeace, Union of Concerned Scientists, Environmental Working Group and the Ruckus Society. The Tides Foundation continues to fund many of these groups, which are in the forefront of left-wing activism.

started, managed OR funded by tides, your tirade in post 19 went to say the article stated that the tides started these SRO's. It didn't say that, the word OR was used where they stated that the tides f. managed, started OR funded these, I believe them and NOT YOU!

You are NO expert and never showed any evidence backing up your statement that the tides f. did nor did not fund such organizations, you showed no proof, no form 990's, nothing.

Please, next time notice a sentence and see if the word OR is used, they did not say the tides f. started greenpeace, they stated that the tides f. either managed OR donated to such NGO's.

I will trust the capital research center rather than you.
http://www.capitalresearch.org/
they seem to be more organized and resourceful than you.
http://www.capitalresearch.org/about/
and they seem to have much more people who know what they are talking about than you
http://www.capitalresearch.org/about/bios.asp

And I'll say it again, get off your high horse and write Terrence Scanlon, President, Capital Research Center (whose .pdf research paper I posted in thread 1) and tell him how wrong he is since you are the self-appointed expert in this field writng about the Tides Foundation for two whole years. And please post his response to you admitting his research is wrong on this thread, thank you. I am not going to hold my breath since the capital resarch center is in a league above you and are probably right with the information described in their research paper in post 1.

[Coleus]

Give it up, Carry_Okie is one of the most informed people I know. His research is impeccable.>>

He's also one of the most pompous and arrogant too, his big head preceeds himself.

(From Post 19
Get your facts straight before posting, please.)

He has a problem reading the Enlish Language since the paragraph posted below (from post 1) NEVER STATED the TIDES FOUNDATION STARTED these organizations the word OR was used which means the Tides foundation EITHER started OR managed OR funded those agencies. He needs to be a little less critical of posters, get off his high horse and take a valium. If he didn't want to enter into a dialogue he could have kept his big mouth shut, ignored the post or freep-mailed me stating that some of the information wasn't correct.

I saw a website and thought it might be of interest to freepers. If he had a problem with it, he should have used his knowledge and contact the Capital Research Center to inform them that the facts were wrong and that he was right, He did not do that.

I trust the people of the Capital Research Center more than him. And if the Capital Research Center states that his research is right and they are wrong, I will state for the record that Carrie Okie is an expert, until then...

From post 1 "Here are a few notable nonprofits started, managed OR funded by Tides: the Natural Resources Defense Council, Greenpeace, Union of Concerned Scientists, Environmental Working Group and the Ruckus Society. The Tides Foundation continues to fund many of these groups, which are in the forefront of left-wing activism. "

Nowhere did it say in the above paragraph that the Tides Foundation STARTED Greenpeace as carrie stated in post 19. The word "OR" was used to indicate that a Group of Agencies listed was somehow influenced by the Tides Foundation by either donations, mangement OR starting. Then it stated that the "Tides Foundation continues to FUND many of those groups....."

[Carry_Okie]

Correct. Tides is, for the most part, a money laundering operation. You will note in Mr. Pike's historical reflections referenced above, how important it was that he had "squeaky clean books."

[Fiddlstix]

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[jmstein7]

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[farmfriend]

He's also one of the most pompous and arrogant too, his big head preceeds himself.

You are miss reading him. Trust me on that one, I know the man personally. Believe me when I say I still would trust his research over CRC anyday. He is that good.

[farmfriend]

If he had a problem with it, he should have used his knowledge and contact the Capital Research Center to inform them that the facts were wrong and that he was right, He did not do that.

Of course not. If they are wrong, why should he donate his valuable time and energy to correct their mistakes? I wouldn't. He doesn't get paid for that.

[Free Trapper]

Googled (tides foundation fonda) and the results looked interesting,fwiw.

I'm unable to even read much right now,health problems,but do wonder about Fonda-Turner links to Heinz and Kerry.

The Tides Foundation and Turner Foundation are linked.

[hosepipe]

For a good pissing contest you need a rope..
please..STOP IT... this info is important ALL of it..IMO

[Coleus]

You may find some info. on this thread

The International Green Agenda

[Carry_Okie]

please..STOP IT... this info is important ALL of it..IMO

Like chasing after storefronts, eh?

Here's the problem: Tides is just one link in one of many funding chains. Bust Tides and the leftists set up another storefront. You will have wasted your time. Look at what Pike is paid, a lousy $50K. He's peanuts. Why not go after the source of the money? In Tides' case that's largely Pew.

Activist groups like Capital Research are all over on both "sides." They dig up stuff from others in the business and present it as if it's orginal research exposing the nexus of evil. The reality is that they're looking to stay in the news and justify donations. What gets to me is that when they scream "wolf" they end up diverting the effort to bust the real influence buyers.

Why not concentrate our efforts in supporting the people who do the original hard research? Try Ron Arnold, for instance, at the Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise, or Henry Lamb at ECO. They've done truly important work, they do credible research, and they are in real need of the support.