Kerry's wife funds
critics of Bush ads
Non-profit group behind 9/11 families
tied to Heinz charitable contributions
critics of Bush ads
Non-profit group behind 9/11 families
tied to Heinz charitable contributions
Nice dodge, but it won't work. Here is what you posted:
"Here are a few notable nonprofits started, managed or funded by Tides":
"Started, managed, or funded by," clearly implies that Tides supposedly played a seminal role in the startup, operation, and funding of the listed organizations. They didn't. A good many of those organizations existed before Tides was even founded. Sure Tides launders money from their contributors (primarily Pew) and I never said that they didn't, but Tides isn't a critical source for any but the EWG and the Ruckus Society and even then they primarily launder money from donors not wishing to be directly associated with the recipients.
So you come back saying that I hadn't proven that Tides hadn't made donations, when that doesn't address what I had said in response to your post! Your response lacks integrity.
As far as sources refuting your contentions are concerned, here is what Drummond Pike says about their history;
By the end of 1981, Tides Foundation stepped into full independence and rented offices with Lyman Casey's Bothin Helping Fund - all 1.75 FTEs of us.
So here we have what you tell us was a foundation capable of helping GreenPIECE or the NRDC get started when it didn't even have TWO full time employees until the 1980s.
I already posted an example, with a link for you about the NRDC that you clearly didn't read in its entirety. That post lists the top sources of NRDC funding over the last ten years (with a source link). Tides isn't even in the top thirty of the list of NRDC's contributors.
Here is ,a href="http://www.nrdc.org/media/default.asp">what the NRDC says about their origins at the bottom of every single press release they publish:
The Natural Resources Defense Council is a national, nonprofit organization of scientists, lawyers and environmental specialists dedicated to protecting public health and the environment. Founded in 1970, NRDC has more than 1 million members and e-activists nationwide, served from offices in New York, Washington, Santa Monica and San Francisco.
As for GreenPIECE you can simply go to their site, thusly. It says:
In fact, the nuclear weapons threat is what prompted the international organization to be founded in 1971.
I'm not going to bother doing any more of your homework on the rest of those organizations for you when the facts are that easy to find.
My book only references Tides in terms of their participation in the coho listing on the West Coast as proof that I have been writing about them for some time. It doesn't go into their funding. If you don't think I've been writing about Tides for some time, or that I am a credible source, ask Grampa Dave; sauropod; farmfriend; sasquatch; forester; marsh2...